Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: English dialect fun!
In this thread, you can pick any sociolect, or ethnolect, or whatever kind of "lect" you prefer, and write in it for fun. To start with, I've chosen the AAVE of speakers in the age group between 12-30. (Telephone conversation between two AAVE teenage speakers)
Jamal: Yo dog, wanna do somethin tonight? I called up my shorty but she's all twisted up wit dat emotional shit right now. You know how they is. Listen g, I got to do somethin tonight! I gots to get out playah!
Antoine: I feel you dog. I be going thru dat same stuff wit my girl too! So what'ch you wanna do cuz?
Jamal: I don't kno. We can always go pop some caps in some random niggas like tru thugs. Haha. Anything b, you kno what I'm sayin?
Antoine: Word. Spit the truf foo!
Jamal: We can hit up da mall downtown, and pimp it, see what kind a hos be up in der. But I don't wanna stay out too late cause i got school in the mornin, and then i gots practice after so i'm gonna be beat. You kno what I'm sayin?
Antoine: Ah-ite, fo sho cuz. Whateva we do, let's jus keep it real, ballah style. Old skoo remix! You dig?
Jamal: No doubt brotha, no doubt. Where you at? Got any green on ya?
Antoine: Na nigga, I be broke as hell. What do ya say we just go ball it up over at da park by my crib?
I think in today's imaginative spelling, that should be Antwan. And it's possible that there should be an apostrophe somewhere. Or has punctuation in one's name become passe?
Sure those weren't just middle-class white kids? _________________ An apple a day....
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:26 am Post subject:
Uriel wrote:
I think in today's imaginative spelling, that should be Antwan.
That occurred to me, too.
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Sure those weren't just middle-class white kids?
Right. I'm sure that I've heard kids from just about every ethnic group in SF talking like that. I don't know about Russian-Americans; somehow I can't picture it, but I haven't actually run into many of them for quite awhile, so I don't know.
I think in today's imaginative spelling, that should be Antwan.
Or "Antwone" as in Fisher.
I once met a woman named "Antwanet". It's a nice name, but that spelling just tells me that her parents weren't very good spellers.
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And it's possible that there should be an apostrophe somewhere. Or has punctuation in one's name become passe?
I'm hoping that those creative days of Ja'net, Ja'mal, and D'André are long behind us, but I could be wrong.
Deborah wrote:
Right. I'm sure that I've heard kids from just about every ethnic group in SF talking like that. I don't know about Russian-Americans; somehow I can't picture it, but I haven't actually run into many of them for quite awhile, so I don't know.
Yeah they do, I've heard them. Also, the Armenian-American kids. One thing I've notice with these kids today is their tendency to drop final consonants: Yo foo', yo' so stoopi'
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:33 am Post subject:
Julian wrote:
Deborah wrote:
Right. I'm sure that I've heard kids from just about every ethnic group in SF talking like that. I don't know about Russian-Americans; somehow I can't picture it, but I haven't actually run into many of them for quite awhile, so I don't know.
Yeah they do, I've heard them. Also, the Armenian-American kids. One thing I've notice with these kids today is their tendency to drop final consonants: Yo foo', yo' so stoopi'
Oh, well, of course, the Armenian-Americans! Everybody's heard them. (Are you serious? How about the Azerbaijani-Americans?)
"I'm gunna go by da wawta and swim in the rivah. "
"I thawt this was nevah gonna happen"
etc.
Yeah man, I always found it interesting how specific the accent is in New Orleans. I live up in Alexandria, and have found that most ppl around the state tend to have that typical 'southern' accent, from Baton Rouge to Shreveport to Lake Charles, save around Lafayette and south of Lafayette where you'll find a lot of the Cajun accent. I've heard some ppl from New Orleans speak and sometimes I almost swear it sounds like certain New York dialects. Quite a trip :P We've got a lot of ppl still here from New Orleans since Katrina, and I hear that accent quite often these days.
That said, and I definitely may be wrong about this, but the New Orleans accent often sounds a lot like a real toned-down "standard-Americanized" cajun accent.
The thing, to me, is that aside from things like AAVE, the actual idea of really phonetically writing many English dialects, such as that here, is practically unthinkable. For instance, while there are often marked phonetic differences between the speech here and conservative General American, I honestly do not really have any concept of writing the dialect here at all (aside from some differences in word usage and syntax). This is unlike with, say, Scots or many English English dialects, which people will write, even if it is on an ad hoc basis.
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