Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:27 am Post subject: The gay thread
I think we need this...
Background info....
The gay flag...
The gay anthem...
Hi - Hi! We're your Weather Girls - Ah-huh -
And have we got news for you - You better listen!
Get ready, all you lonely girls
and leave those umbrellas at home. - Alright! -
Humidity is rising - Barometer's getting low
According to all sources, the street's the place to go
Cause tonight for the first time
Just about half-past ten
For the first time in history
It's gonna start raining men.
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah! - It's Raining Men! Amen!
I'm gonna go out to run and let myself get
Absolutely soaking wet!
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!
It's Raining Men! Every Specimen!
Tall, blonde, dark and lean
Rough and tough and strong and mean
God bless Mother Nature, she's a single woman too
She took off to heaven and she did what she had to do
She taught every angel to rearrange the sky
So that each and every woman could find her perfect guy
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah! - It's Raining Men! Amen!
It's Raining Men! Hallelujah!
It's Raining Men! Ame---------nnnn!
I feel stormy weather / Moving in about to begin
Hear the thunder / Don't you lose your head
Rip off the roof and stay in bed
God bless Mother Nature, she's a single woman too
She took off to heaven and she did what she had to do
She taught every angel to rearrange the sky
So that each and every woman could find her perfect guy
It's Raining Men! Yeah!
Humidity is rising - Barometer's getting low
According to all sources, the street's the place to go
Cause tonight for the first time
Just about half-past ten
For the first time in history
It's gonna start raining men.
You don't have to answer if this comes across as too personal Andre, but would you say you are percieved as rather "fem" or do you conduct yourself like any 'ol heterosexual man? I would never have guessed that you were gay, by your face, the shirt you wear in your pic, and the fact that you are very into sports. _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Favorite languages = English/Spanish
Followed by Italian/French/Dutch
You don't have to answer if this comes across as too personal Andre, but would you say you are percieved as rather "fem" or do you conduct yourself like any 'ol heterosexual man? I would never have guessed that you were gay, by your face, the shirt you wear in your pic, and the fact that you are very into sports.
Don't worry, I don't mind answering! I'm a man - who is attracted to other men. No, I'm not perceived by others as "fem" and I am not "fem". Very few people I meet know I'm gay unless I tell them. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
So, you're not in the least atttracted to women? Please don't assume my question is an attempt at mocking you. I'm being sincere. For me, being with a man is repulsive. Is that how you feel about the thought of being with a woman? As a heterosexual, it's hard for me to imagine it being anything otherwise, but I'm sure you feel the opposite.
It seems like most gay people I come accross wish they were the opposite sex in a way, as if they feel like they were born in the wrong body. Is this how the majority of gay people feel? _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Favorite languages = English/Spanish
Followed by Italian/French/Dutch
Ah, this old chestnut again? I wondered when it would rise up again! (No pun intended or implied, and any resemblance to actual humor is merely coincidental, of course!)
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So, you're not in the least atttracted to women?
Andre is deeply attracted to Elaine. And Deborah. And me, of course....
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Please don't assume my question is an attempt at mocking you. I'm being sincere. For me, being with a man is repulsive. Is that how you feel about the thought of being with a woman? As a heterosexual, it's hard for me to imagine it being anything otherwise, but I'm sure you feel the opposite.
Sex is sex, buddy. It all feels good...
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It seems like most gay people I come accross wish they were the opposite sex in a way, as if they feel like they were born in the wrong body. Is this how the majority of gay people feel?
That is not how most gay people feel at all, Porthos. That's how transgendered people feel, and that's a completely different phenomenon called gender dysphoria. Homosexuals still identify strongly with their own gender -- they feel just as much like a man or a woman as a heterosexual man or woman does, and don't hate their bodies at all (well, at least if they do, it's for the same reasons the rest of us hate our bodies -- flab, bald spots, hair in the all the wrong places, things sagging where we don't want them to, etc.)
Ah, this old chestnut again? I wondered when it would rise up again! (No pun intended or implied, and any resemblance to actual humor is merely coincidental, of course!)
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So, you're not in the least atttracted to women?
Andre is deeply attracted to Elaine. And Deborah. And me, of course....
Of course!
Uriel wrote:
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Please don't assume my question is an attempt at mocking you. I'm being sincere. For me, being with a man is repulsive. Is that how you feel about the thought of being with a woman? As a heterosexual, it's hard for me to imagine it being anything otherwise, but I'm sure you feel the opposite.
Sex is sex, buddy. It all feels good...
Well....
Uriel wrote:
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It seems like most gay people I come accross wish they were the opposite sex in a way, as if they feel like they were born in the wrong body. Is this how the majority of gay people feel?
That is not how most gay people feel at all, Porthos. That's how transgendered people feel, and that's a completely different phenomenon called gender dysphoria. Homosexuals still identify strongly with their own gender -- they feel just as much like a man or a woman as a heterosexual man or woman does, and don't hate their bodies at all (well, at least if they do, it's for the same reasons the rest of us hate our bodies -- flab, bald spots, hair in the all the wrong places, things sagging where we don't want them to, etc.)
Perfectly said! _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
It seems like most gay people I come accross wish they were the opposite sex in a way, as if they feel like they were born in the wrong body. Is this how the majority of gay people feel?
The only people I know who felt that way are transexual, not gay. As for me I like too much male bodies not to want to have one on my own!!!
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: Re: The gay thread
patriccke wrote:
André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
The gay anthem...
I love that song but I would say our anthem is I will survive (though the lyrics of I am what I am make it a better candidate)
Ah yes, both of those are close contenders! In South Africa we've been having it so easy recently that I will survive doesn't really seem relevant anymore... Sometimes I miss the days when we were still fighting for basic recognision.... Now we have to really finecomb legislation to find something to bitch about... And it's become fashionable to be gay... or at least have a gay son/daughter... It's becoming boring now... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
In Italy, there's no doubt about which is the gay athem: Raffaella Carrà, Tanti Auguri (by the way she was born in Bologna )
Com’è bello far l’amore da Trieste in giù,
com’è bello far l’amore io son pronta, e tu?
tanti auguri, a chi tanti amanti ha,
tanti auguri, in campagna ed in città.
Com’è bello far l’amore da Trieste in giù,
l’importante farlo sempre con chi hai voglia tu,
e se ti lascia lo sai che si fa...
trovi un altro più bello, che problemi non ha.
How nice it is to make love from Trieste downwards,
how nice it is to make love I'm ready, and you?
best wishes to who's got many lovers,
best wishes in the country and in the city,
How nice it is to make love from Trieste downwards,
the most important is to make it with who YOU want,
and he leaves you you know what to do,
find a better looking one who hasn't got problems
So then why do so many gay people act like the opposite sex, as if they're trying to be a woman or vice versa? _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
Favorite languages = English/Spanish
Followed by Italian/French/Dutch
I'm gay and have been for as long as I can remember.
No one can guess or tell I'm gay from the way I behave because I'm masculine in my nature and look masculine - that's because I am a man!
People get shocked when I tell them I'm gay as they just can't guess it. But come on, they should be able to tell because I get on with girls like a house on fire. But is often what gives them the wrong idea (that I am a ladies' man, until I correct them by stating that I am more of a laddies' man than a ladies' man - hehe).
Every gay person is individual so I can't really say how or what the majority of gay people feel even in the most general way but I can tell you how and what I feel.
I don't feel feminine at all and I feel very comfortable with my sexuality and with myself, just like how you would feel about yours. I can't imagine being with a woman, let alone doing er... you know... that thing with a woman.
I think the most important thing that needs to be stressed is that, contrary to popular belief, homosexuality is not a choice, never has been. Otherwise, I would not be choosing this in order to go through hell of being verbally, mentally and even physically tortured and ridiculed by my bullies. It just comes naturally to you.
Recently I got an idea for a TV sitcom that can make us rich (and secure us financial aid frim the Dutch tourist authorities):
Imagine a kind of Dutch "Will and Grace" + "Sex and the City" + "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"", but one that was willing to milk the socalled female gaze that has come more and more in focus since "Brokeback Mountain" by having as its main character a ridiculously cute gay couple in their 20s (e.g. Wim & Kees ), living in a ridiculously cute brick house by a canal in beautiful Amstrerdam, having ridiculously cute Dutch jobs as for example a guide in the Rijkksmuseum and a florist and featuring a lot of jealous girls trying to seduce one of our cute heroes and nearly managing to, before he comes to his senses again and bike home on the cobbled streets of Amsterdam for some wholesome gay cuddling!
I think it would easily win over the whole female audience, from Dawsons Creek addicted teens to sex-starved carreer women, who would pant over the scenes where our heroes flash lots of skin and male anatomy while they pillow talk in sexy, guttural Dutch. And of course there would be the occasional gay viewer... Perhaps it would even be aired in South Africa and the US, for André's delight and Porthos' education!
_________________ Wer fremde Sprachen nicht kennt, weiß nichts von seiner eigenen. = Those who don't know foreign languages, know nothing of their own. (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)
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I wondered when it would rise up again! (No pun intended or implied, and any resemblance to actual humor is merely coincidental, of course!) 
And it's become fashionable to be gay... or at least have a gay son/daughter... It's becoming boring now... 
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