Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:35 pm Post subject: Whishky on the rocksh
It appears to me like a lot of men in the South of the US don't pronounce their 's's like an 's', but rather like something inbetween 's' and 'sh', if you know what I mean. I can't recall having heard a female pronounce her 's's like that. I was just wondering how widespread this might be in the South. It's something I've come to associate with old grumpy southern men. I know this guy pronounces his 's's like that.
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 2:53 am Post subject:
I hadn't noticed it being particularly a Southern trait. I'll have to pay attention to that. I have noticed it being an old-world Spanish trait, though.
I hadn't noticed it being particularly a Southern trait. I'll have to pay attention to that. I have noticed it being an old-world Spanish trait, though.
Oh, maybe it's not a Southern trait. That's just the impression I've gotten.
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject:
I checked Scott Glen's biography; he grew up in Pennsylvania, so he's not from the South. He's played a number of roles that do require a Southern accent, however.
Of the other actors I could think of who pronounce their Ss like SH (to varying degrees), two -- Elizabeth Ashley and Holly Hunter -- are from the South and one -- June Allyson -- is not.
There is something here like that, where /s/ is realized as laminal (that is, [s_m]) rather than apical (that is, [s_a]) before /p/, /t/, /m/, /n/, /R/, /L\/, and /w/, which makes it more like the usual English [S], which is laminal (that is, [S_m]), and less like the usual English [s], which is apical; note that it does seem to sound more [S]-like superficially due to such. However, /s/ here is still realized by default as apical, most notably before /k/, which does not cause it to be realized as laminal.
Right, you told me that 's' in your dialect is (usually) pronounced the same way/similar to how I pronounced it in that recording I posted a while back, right?
It's probably just because in the movies they were chewing tobacco, or chewing on straw, or sunflower seeds. That's kind of a stereotypical southern thing. _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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Holly Hunter does have that weird SH-instead-of-S thing, but most other people don't. Unless they're drunk -- in which case any further requests for "whishkey on the rocksh" should probably not be filled.
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Holly Hunter does have that weird SH-instead-of-S thing, but most other people don't. Unless they're drunk -- in which case any further requests for "whishkey on the rocksh" should probably not be filled.
Haha! I was kind of wondering if that sh thing was some kind of speech impediment... I guess it is then, sometimes.
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(We always spell "whiskey" with the E, by the way. Some other countries don't.)
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