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| ek nog nie dit gesien het nie, maar ek sal seker na dit kyk |
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| Quote: | | ek nog nie dit gesien het nie, maar ek sal seker na dit kyk |
"seker"?.....Ik begrijp dit woord niet.
When translating from Afrikaans to Dutch, you change "ek" to "Ik" and "s" to "z" in most cases, and "y" to "ij" in most cases, correct? Forgive me for switching to English. Ik ken zeer Nederlands weinig . 
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no problem.. yeah, thats pretty much it on the word translation, so far as i can tell. also, something else that threw me for a loop with dutch for a bit is 'het'. 'het' does not mean 'the' in afrikaans, it actually means 'had' or 'have', or sometimes even 'did', depending on the context.
seker = certain, surely, sure, probably
in that case i was going for 'surely' or 'probably' :P |
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| Quote: | seker = certain, surely, sure, probably
in that case i was going for 'surely' or 'probably' :P |
Ah, okay. Ik versta je/u/jij (I never know which one to use, lol).
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Ah, okay. Ik versta je/u/jij (I never know which one to use, lol). |
Lool, not 100% sure with dutch myself, but I know with Afrikaans, 'Jy' is 'You' as in "He, She, You", 'Jou' is you as in 'Him, Her, You', and 'u' the formal version of both 'jy' and jou'. So unless I'm your mom, your teacher, or are trying to be proper in a customer service setting, you wouldn't use 'u' much. Not sure which one of those Dutch equivilents correspond to the Afrikaans 'jy' and 'jou'. |
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Nice Dutch Porthos :) some extra suggestions:
Heeft u = formal
Heb je = informal
Zwartboek is such a great movie! I've seen it twice. ;) The DVD version is available for english speaking people as well, with english subtitles:
Click here
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Dank je vel voor de correcties Akoni!  Je zou hier meer moeten komen, zo dat wij kunnen samen praktizeren. Mijn nederlands is slecht, maar je kunt helpen mij. Ik hoop je te zien hier opnieuw. 
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| Porthos wrote: | | Dank je wel voor de correcties Akoni! Je zou hier meer moeten komen, zo dat wij samen kunnen oefenen. Mijn nederlands is slecht, maar je kunt mij helpen. Ik hoop je hier opnieuw te zien. |
Je Nederlands is best goed voor iemand die er pas recentelijk mee gestart is!
Your Dutch is quite good for someone who only started learning it recently!
Ik zal proberen om de zinnen zoveel mogelijk op de Engelse variant te laten lijken, zodat je het makkelijker kunt leren. Op deze manier kun je ook meteen de overeenkomst tussen Engels en Nederlands beter zien.
I shall try to make the sentences resemble the English variant, so that you can read it more easy. This way you can also see the resemblance between English and Dutch better.
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| Quote: | Je Nederlands is best goed voor iemand die er pas recentelijk mee gestart is!
Your Dutch is quite good for someone who only started learning it recently! |
Dank je! Ik heb slechts een week gestudeerd op de internet, alleen. Ik heb niet sinds dan gestudeerd. Maar, Ik heb geen de tijd te lernen met slechts de internet.
| Quote: | Ik zal proberen om de zinnen zoveel mogelijk op de Engelse variant te laten lijken, zodat je het makkelijker kunt leren. Op deze manier kun je ook meteen de overeenkomst tussen Engels en Nederlands beter zien.
I shall try to make the sentences resemble the English variant, so that you can read it more easy. This way you can also see the resemblance between English and Dutch better. |
Ja, Ik denk dat is goed. Ik doen dat ook wanneer en Nederlands ik ben skrijfen, omdat (of want?) het gemakkelijker is. Ik leer snel het Nederlands want it zo gelijk Engels is. Ik probeer mijn best, maar het is niet altijd gemakelijk. Ik kan de boeken van kinderen begrijpen zeer wel, en ik begrijpen het geschreven Nederlands vel goed. Maar ik ben niet goed met praatten. De mensen spreken te snel voor mij. 
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| Quote: | | Dank je! Ik heb slechts een week gestudeerd op het internet, alleen. Ik heb het sinds toen niet meer gestudeerd. Maar ik heb geen tijd om te leren met slechts het internet. |
You pick up the basics of a language quickly then. :) I didn't quite understand your last sentence because it seemed a bit out of place (maybe you meant you don't have time to take a course?)
Je leert de basis van een taal snel dan. :) Ik begreep je laatste zin niet helemaal omdat het een beetje op de verkeerde plek leek. (misschien bedoelde je dat je geen tijd hebt om een cursus te doen?)
| Quote: | | Ja, ik denk dat dat goed is. Ik doe dat ook wanneer ik Nederlands schrijf, omdat het dan (ge)makkelijker is. Ik leer snel Nederlands omdat het zo gelijk aan Engels is. Ik doe mijn best, maar het is niet altijd gemakkelijk. Ik kan de boeken van kinderen zeer goed begrijpen, en ik begrijp het geschreven Nederlands wel goed. Maar ik ben niet goed in praten. De mensen spreken te snel voor mij. |
The best thing to do is listen to spoken Dutch a lot. :)
Here are some Dutch spoken clips (In standard Dutch) from Dutch movies about WWII. The best thing to do is pause after every sentence and maybe listen again until you understand what they say:
Zwartboek clips:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=EvTmlHnWpFo
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=MhoP1zeQE4k <-- with English subtitles
De Aanslag clip:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=vGyOpHQQiUc
De Tweeling clip:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=2i6GxhA8zkM <-- parts in German
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| Quote: | | You pick up the basics of a language quickly then. :) I didn't quite understand your last sentence because it seemed a bit out of place (maybe you meant you don't have time to take a course?) |
Yeah, I think I do, so long as I apply myself. What I was attempting to express is that I don't have the time to devote to studying Dutch, and the internet is my only source, so I won't be able to take a course. So what I was trying to say is that I don't have time for personal study on the internet, which is what I've been using. As you can see, my grammar is atrocious. I learned a lot of words, and I know how to pronounce most of them, and I listen to Dutch radio online, and I've exposed myself to a lot of written Dutch. That's the only way I've learned it. I've learned basically by being exposed to it, rather than actually learning grammatical rules, so I'm often hit-or-miss when it comes to word order and grammar in general. I learned a remarkable amount of Dutch in just about 1.5 weeks. I myself am quite impressed with my results, even though my grammar is terrible. I learned all the numbers, pronouns, and colors in just a single day, and I memorized them all. Then I set about learning the prepositions, articles, and most common verbs, etc. And now I can speak it on a basic level I would say.
And thanks for the clips!
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