Broken translation game!!!

Pauline · Broken translation game!!!

This game is about the translation of a text. This text will start in english (because all the visitors can read it) and it will finish in english for a good comparaison. Only the person making the translation and I will see the text. After each translation the text will go to the next person until the final one. after the completion I will post the entire proces: all the texts, then we can enjoy the changes and discover if/where it has altered

each person who would like to play this game please write:

1. from which languages you would like to translate
2. in which ones

It's not necssary to perfectly know the languages

As on unilang, it's not allowed to use a translator for example babelfish, but you can look up in the dictionary.

So, please reply if you'd like to play and your languages offered.

Then i will try to make the plan of who will translate 1st, 2nd, etc...for include as many languages as possible!!

Example:

1 st person english > german
2nd person german > afrikaans
3rd person afrikaans > dutch
etc..

I hope that many people will play this game!!

PS yelina,
te necesitamso porque eres la única que puede traduccir el castellano al francés!!! Entonces, pon tu nombre aquí por favor!!!!!!! Gracias.

tu y Loic podéis añadir el chino también si queréis. Qué divertido tener un idioma tal exótico en el juego

PS Liz,
we can't include hungarian

Only if there will be another person who can speak it.

PS everyone,
Absolutly *no* language is too little, rare or ridiculous , for example on unilang the language Klingon is in the game LOL!!! This is the language of people from another planet or something like this on a TV programme /film

Pauline

here's the list from the broken translations game on unilang, so that you can see an example

This game is from quebecer to french. i made my translation today from spanish in dutch, so now Nounoursette will put it in french.

(It's another Benjamin)

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québécois/quebecer -> Egein (irlandais/irish) -> DelBoy (anglais/english) -> Levo (espagnol/spanish) -> Pauline (néérlandais/dutch) -> Nounoursette (français/french) -> Benjamin (gallois/welsh) -> Cymro (vieux norrois/old norse) -> Hunef (suédois/swedish) -> Almar (islandais/icelandic) -> Aleco (danois/danish) -> Car (espagnol/spanish) -> Anesthesia (serbe/serbian) -> Bolek (allemand/german) -> Nero (klingon) -> Dminor (frison/frisian) -> dwergknijn (anglais/english) -> Axiom (russe/russian) -> Zorba (français/french) -> Sisyphe (turc/turkish) -> Vogelvrij (néérlandais/dutch) -> Sido (allemand/german) -> dorenda (ukrainien/ukrainian) -> Wildfire (anglais/english) -> nighean-neonach (norvégien/norwegian (bokmål)) -> monopolyman (roumain/romanian) -> Luís (portugais/portuguese) -> FiliusLunae (romanche/romansh) -> Strigo (catalan) -> culúrien (espagnol/spanish) -> Kuba (japonais/japanese) -> Kubi (anglais/english) -> lu:ka (français/french)

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Benjamin [inactive]

1. from which languages you would like to translate:
— English
— French
— Spanish
— German
— Scots
— Esperanto
— Folkspraak
— Interlingua
— possibly I could also try Dutch, Afrikaans, Frisian, Italian, Portuguese, Catalan, Occitan or Walloon

2. in which ones:
— English
— French
— possibly I could also try German, Spanish or Esperanto

Liz

Hi Pauline,

1. from which languages you would like to translate:

- English
- German
- possibly I could try French and Dutch, but I can't guarantee that it will be
accurate

2. in which ones:

- English
- German

Lazar

1. from which languages you would like to translate:
— English
— French
— Spanish
— Italian
— Portuguese

2. in which ones:
— English
— French
— Spanish
— Italian
— Portuguese

Liz

Oh no! Is everyone a polyglot except for me?

Lazar

Don't worry, I'm not fluent in all those languages.

I have a pretty good knowledge of Spanish, and I'm in the process of learning the other major Romance languages. I've also started to study German, but I don't think I'd be able to do a good German-English or English-German translation yet.

Deborah

1. from which languages you would like to translate:

- English
- Spanish
- Catalan
- French
- Occitan
- Portuguese
- Italian
- Russian

2. into which ones:

- English
- Spanish
- French

Walker

Pauline

Hi

We need many more people and their languages!!!!!

Harrenys Targaryen

1. from which languages you would like to translate:

- English
- French
- Frisian
- Portuguese
- Scots

2. into which ones:

- Danish
- Dutch
- German

Pauline

Hi

sometimes brothers can be a useful thing

He made this list, but we added Frederik because he can undertsnad swedish. I hope that he will take part. If not, we will adjust this list.

1. English > Danish Harrenys

2. Danish > Swedish Walker

3. swedish > German fredrik in Norway

4. German > English Liz

5. English > Portuguese Lazar

6. Portuguese > French Deborah

7. french > English Benjamin

If more people will join, then we can add more languages

I will send the text to the 1st person in a PM, but I will wait some more days.

Liz

Deborah

Kornelia

from which languages you would like to translate:
Spanish

into which ones:
Polish

Llatai

from which languages would you translate
English or Welsh

into which languages
English or Welsh

Don't know if anyone on this site speaks Welsh or not, but thought I'd toss it into the ring just in case.

Pauline

Hi Llatai

it's nice to "meet" you.

Hi everyone

It would be great to include Welsh and Hungarian, but until now there are only one person for each, so we need another!!! Scots would be fun as well, and we need only a person who can tranlsate into it still, maybe there's someone? Daniel?

Hola Kornelia,
bienvenido al juego

Ojalá tendrémos alguién qui puede traduccir del polaco a otro idioma. KsA quizás, y Losseh también es polaco, no? Podríamos dejarles un anuncio en el foro eslavo, sería buen idea o no, qué crees?

Kornelia

Deborah

I'm having second thoughts about translating into any language but English. I just don't think my level is high enough in any other language.

Liz

I wish Easterner was here...

Pauline

Benjamin [inactive]

Daniel

I could try Scots.

Pauline

Pauline

Liz

PAAAAAUUUUULIIIIINEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh my Goodness!!!!!! I'm in the soup up to the neck, like Brennus.

I can't translate form Dutch...or I might try but my German is lousy! I would prefer the previous role!!!!!!!!!!!

I might try translating from Dutch...but into German???? Poor someone being followed by me! My Dutch is strictly receptive...my productive skills are less than nought, converging into minus infinite. Imagine me translating with such an "impressive" knowledge into my lousy German (making only one mistake in each sentence is a great achievement on my part)!!!!

I'm bitterly dissapointed.

PS: I'm just being tongue-in-cheek, but I'm really and truly frightened!

Liz

Oh...I see...My translation will go the Benjamin. Poor guy...

PS: Not that my English isn't lousy, but there is a scale of lousiness, and my English is without a doubt closer to the "acceptable" end than my German or, let alone, my Dutch. Besides, if we can't include Hungarian as I'm the only person around who speaks the language, it is English, in which I have fluency closest to my native language, so pairing Dutch with German in my case is doomed to complete fiasco. But why not?

Anyway, my Hungarian isn't the best conceiveable, either. Funnily enough, I always get very good marks for my Hungarian to English translations and somewhat worse marks for my English to Hungarian translations. I haven't got the foggiest why this is so. I have always been positive that I *do* speak and write Hungarian well, but now I'm preparing to throw the last vestiges of my self-esteem into the rubbish bin.

Pauline

Pauline

This Broken Translation Game is started: I've sent the English text in a PM to Lazar. He will trasnlate it into Portuguese & send it in a PM to me and to Harrenys.

Lazar !!! You've a PM

After Lazar will finish, I will put his name in another colour on the list, so everyone will see to where the translation is progrssed.

Liz

Pauline, is it a problem if I can't translate from Saturday to Wensday? I'm having five exams!!!

Anyway, I hope the pecking order won't reach me in those few days. Ouch!!!!

Pauline

Hi Liz,

It's no problem at all. Lazar has translatde and sent it to Harrenys!! So, he was incredible quickly, but there will be some people who havn't time, don't visit etc so there will be for example some days between. There's no stress, time limit etc..

Maybe it will finish at Christmas

Anyway, probably next week i will go to school, so during the days it won't be possible to check as much as I've this week, but i will check every day. If I wouldn't be able to during this game then my brother will make the updates (he helpd me make the list etc.. and find it very fun) but probably I will arrange all the things.

Harrenys you have a PM from Lazar!!!

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

----->Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German --> Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Greg English --> French

Fab French --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Benjamin Afrikaans --> French

Loic French --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

****Harrenys has the text**** since 8th June

Deborah

Liz

Benjamin [inactive]

Liz

Poor you (Benjamin) -- two translations!!!

Then my Dutch is halfway between your Afrikaans and your Spanish, I presume.

Benjamin [inactive]

I think I'll have to read what's written in German and Afrikaans out loud — that usually makes it easier for me to understand them. I'll probably have to translate them both into English first anyway, because I'm not sure if I can 'transcribe' German and Afrikaans directly into Spanish and French.

Lazar

Deborah

Liz

Pauline

Benjamin you have a PM !!

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

------->Benjamin German --> Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Greg English --> French

Fab French --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Benjamin Afrikaans --> French

Loic French --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

****Benjamin has the text**** since 9th June

Deborah

I can't wait!

Pauline

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

------->Benjamin German --> Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Greg English --> French

Fab French --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800) Afrikaans --> English

Liz English --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Loic French --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

****Benjamin has the text**** since 9th June

Pauline

Today is the 14th June, so for sure this game won't finish after 2 weeks, but on 30th June i will go away during 21 days.

so, would you like (another person) to take over the organisation of this game ? It would be:

1. receive the PM translated text & save it (every one because after we will post all the transations)

2. send the text to the next person & expalin them into which language to translate and after to send it to you & the person after.

3. update the list in the various colours

Please tell me if you want to do this.
Thanks
Love,
Pauline

(PS Until 29th june I will make this organisation)

Kornelia

He enviado la traducción a KSa:) Pauline, y a ti lo he enviado también con la versión española de Benjamin. Besos

Pauline

KSa

OK, I sent it to Llatai.

Pauline

Llatai

Sent to Tiorthan today

Pauline

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German -->Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

------->Tiorthan Welsh --> English

Greg English --> French

Loic French --> Chinese

Yelina Chinese --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800)Afrikaans --> English

Aquatar English --> German

Liz German --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Fab French --> English

****Tiorthan has the text**** since 17th June

Daniel

Omg.

Hope the text isn't too long, and is simple enough.

I'm not fluent in Scots although I've been exposed to it long enough having lived in Scotland almost all my life... I just hope that I won't f*ck it up with the vocabulary (since there is no standard spelling system - but I think I'll adopt the Doric variant)... *bites lips*

Sh*t, I don't have my Scots dictionary...

Think I should run up to Inverness to fetch it?

*cue the Run Lola Run! dramatic theme music*

Tiorthan

My Cymraeg is very limited. I know a few phrases and I have a little bit of grammar ... but expect a totally different text.
And I'm guilty of not reading my inbox everyday. I read the PM yesterday and at the moment I have the first sentence nearly completed. Will take a while since work occupies me a lot at the moment.

Pauline

Pauline

Deborah

If you see a word that obviously doesn't fit but you can figure out from the context what it probably was supposed to be, should you fix it, or should you translate just what you see?

Pauline

Deborah

Liz

I remember having found one word that didn't really fit in the Dutch text. It might have really been in the original text, but I found it strange. Of course, I translated that way because that's the goal of the game.

I'm not sure anyway because I'm not proficient enough in Dutch to be able to recognise the tiny little nuances.

PS: Pauline, I think I've told you about the "from a poem to a Pick salami advertisement" sort of translation parody by Frigyes Karinthy. I'm sorry I can't share it with you. I can't even show it to Bashar because, as far as I'm aware, he can't speak German.

Irrintzi

1. from which languages I would like to translate:

- Euskara/Basque
- English
- French
- Spanish

And also (I don't speak it):
- Catalan : some vocabulary and knowledge
- Occitan (Béarnais, Gascon...) : some vocabulary and knowledge
- Portuguese : Only, I can read and understand on the paper.
- Italian : few words and knowledge
- Latin : I studied it.
- Corsican : lot of insults

, thanks to my Corsican friends

Bad level in (basic words):
- Arabic : I'm learning the alphabet and basic words
- German : Basic knowledge
- Eskimo (

) : Only via the Basque knowledge, I know some Eskimo related words. I don't lie!

2. into which ones:

- Euskara
- French
- English
- Spanish

Pauline

hi irrintzi,

Eskimo LOL!! What a fun it would be to have this language in the game!!! Unfortunatly we can't. I've included you in the game: you will take the place of Fab, as he didn't write that he'd like to translate, and he didn't notce I'vesend him a PM about it. You will be the final translator; you will translate french into English.

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German -->Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

------->Tiorthan Welsh --> English

Greg English --> French

Loic French --> Chinese

Yelina Chinese --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800)Afrikaans --> English

Aquatar English --> German

Liz German --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Irrintzi French --> English

****Tiorthan has the text**** since 17th June

Irrintzi

Irrintzi

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German -->Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

------->Tiorthan Welsh --> English

Greg English --> French

Loic French --> Chinese

Yelina Chinese --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800)Afrikaans --> English

Aquatar English --> German

Liz German --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Julian French --> Occitan (languedocian, gascon...)

Irrintzi Occitan --> Basque (Euskara batua)

??? Basque --> English

Can we make that? It seems to me that for the continuation.
Would anybody know the Basque, Daniel? Julian? Deborah? Mister X or Miss Y?

Deborah

Irrintzi

Pauline

Irrintzi

Yes ok, I posted a private message to Julian, Pauline, you can start your translation project, because us, we're at the end... Il ne faut pas que les autres s'impatientent!

Pauline

Yes, the game was started about 2 weeks ago

If you look to the list, those names in blue are the people who've translated the text. the ones in black will translate it, and Tiorthan has it now.

As you've noticed, there're much people before you, so we can wait for the reply of Julian and the other person.

Irrintzi

Tiorthan

On the desk.

Pauline

Pauline

Irrintzi

Ok, thanks, It's clear now.

Tiorthan

Until now I only translated the first sentence and looked over the text for words I immediately recognize. I will however spend my evening on the text today.

I will not finish today, that's for sure. And if I'm not finished by wednesday I'll invent a completly new text

Pauline

Okay LOL!!!!!!

Please ensure that you finish it before friday!!!! I want to read it but the end of next week I will go away!!!!

Tiorthan

I'm done. Quite a challenge to translate from a language you don't really know that's halfway remotely related to another language that you just start to understand.

I believe the topic of the text is roughly the same as before but there will be a hell of a lot of mistakes where I just had to guess the grammar and sometimes the vocabulary.

I'm the first to vote for a new spelling system that indicates initial mutations

Llatai

Sorry Tiorthan, I feel your pain. Hats off to you for putting through the effort. Glad you volunteered to translate from Welsh. At least you must have a little more understanding of it by playing this game. Let me know if you want to learn more, there are online resources and email lists for Welsh learners if you really want to get into it. Some lists have fluent or native speakers who'll help with your questions. They've been a great resource for me. I know, too late for this game at least, but for future reference.

Pauline

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German -->Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

Tiorthan Welsh --> English

------->Greg English --> French

Loic French --> Chinese

Yelina Chinese --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800)Afrikaans --> English

Aquatar English --> German

Liz German --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Irrintzi French --> English

****greg has the text**** since 24th June

Tiorthan

Diolch Llatai.
I'd like to dive a little deeper into the language though it will be low priority at the moment.
Whilst translating I realized how closely related Gaeilge and Cymraeg really are structurally and how different at the same time. It's a beautiful language even if it has far to much y's and w's

but I like the sound of it and the "feeling" of the grammar.

Pauline

from now, Tiorthan and walker will take ovr the organistiaon of this game.

Tiorthan & walker,

I've send you 3 PMs: texts 1,2,3 texts 4,5,6,and texts 7,8,9. You will need this texts after the game will finsih.

Thanks,
Love
Pauline

Liz

Now that Pauline's gone, what about the broken translation game?

Irrintzi

Je me demande même si Greg est au courant....
I wonder even if Greg knows....

Walker

Tiorthan

Yes she did do so.
I send my translation to Greg so he should have recived a message from me and from Pauline.

Deborah

Even though I'm not going to be around much, I still very much want to do my part in the translation, so please let me know when it's my turn.

ddog800

yes, i'm looking forward to it as well.

Liz

Walker

Update:

Lazar English --> Portuguese

Harrenys Portuguese --> Dutch

Liz Dutch --> German

Benjamin German -->Spanish

Kornelia Spanish --> Polish

KsA Polish --> English

Llatai English --> Welsh

Tiorthan Welsh --> English

------->Yelina English --> French

Loic French --> Chinese

Yelina Chinese --> Spanish

Deborah Spanish --> English

Harrenys English --> Danish

Walker Danish --> English

André English --> Afrikaans

Daniel (ddog800)Afrikaans --> English

Aquatar English --> German

Liz German --> Hungarian

Bashar Hungarian --> English

Daniel (in London) English --> Scots

Benjamin Scots --> French

Irrintzi French --> English

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