Porthos
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Job Hunting - an updateOkay, so as many of you know I've been job hunting recently. I don't have a car, and I'm wearing a suit and tie, so I can't ride a bike either. I've been walking all over town, a few miles a day looking for work, and going to interviews.
I have had an interview at Albertsons, at Blenders (a smoothie and health food chain), and at an upscale restauraunt. I have an interview at a stock brokerage coming up in a couple of weeks, and an interview at a law firm, and I have several other prospects.
I would prefer working in an office job, where I can gain valuable experience in areas related to what I plan on eventually doing once I'm finished with school. Answering phones, filing, and data entry looks a hell of a lot better on a resume than a job at a fast food chain. Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming, and I have recieved many compliments on my professionalism and how I conduct myself.
I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point.
At Albertsons, you are a union employee. And besides their benefit package, they also provide scholarships to students in a lot of cases, sometimes in the amount of a few thousand dollars for tuition. And that sounds sweet to my ears.
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André in Zuid-Afrika
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Re: Job Hunting - an update | Porthos wrote: | I would prefer working in an office job, where I can gain valuable experience in areas related to what I plan on eventually doing once I'm finished with school. Answering phones, filing, and data entry looks a hell of a lot better on a resume than a job at a fast food chain. Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming, and I have recieved many compliments on my professionalism and how I conduct myself.
I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point.
At Albertsons, you are a union employee. And besides their benefit package, they also provide scholarships to students in a lot of cases, sometimes in the amount of a few thousand dollars for tuition. And that sounds sweet to my ears. |
Sounds sensible! Good luck!  
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Porthos
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Merci Andre!
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fab
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It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here.
I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?
At what average age do most American live parent's home ?
Here it is not surprising to have young people of 25-30, sometimes more, still living with their parents.
I should recognise I left parent's home only Three years ago, when I worked for the first time after I had finished my studies, at 26.
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Benjamin [inactive]
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Re: Job Hunting - an update | Porthos wrote: | | I don't have a car, and I'm wearing a suit and tie, so I can't ride a bike either. |
Why can't you cycle? David Cameron, the leader of the Conservative Party here, often cycles to work through London, and he wears a suit. It's all part of his environmentalist campaign.
| Porthos wrote: | | Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming, |
Ever considered being a model?
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Deborah
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When I graduated from high school, before I foolishly agreed to attend college (pretty much at my own expense) so that my mother could keep collecting social security and veteran's benefits to help make payments on her house, I was prepared to leave home. I'd found a place to stay in return for housecleaning & such and I was ready to get a part-time job so I'd still have time for my ballet classes. In my day, parents did seem to expect you'd leave home pretty early. (My mother didn't, but I wanted to get away ASAP.)
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Pauline
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After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18.
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Benjamin [inactive]
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| Pauline wrote: | | After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18. |
I'm leaving home (and hopefully the country... well sort of) after the summer as well — I'm really looking forward to it!
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Pauline
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| Benjamin wrote: | | Pauline wrote: | | After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18. |
I'm leaving home (and hopefully the country... well sort of) after the summer as well — I'm really looking forward to it! |
You will study french and german? So to Scotland for an english is to leave the country? Then for us, it would be to leave the country when we go to Flanders LOL!! 
I will miss my sister because she's very bossy and nosy but nice as well (mostly). My other sister isn't nice. It will become quiet in my house, but I won't be at home so probaly it don't make such a differnce (for me)
Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland?
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Benjamin [inactive]
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| Pauline wrote: | | You will study french and german? |
Yes, probably with theology as well for the first two years.
| Pauline wrote: | | So to Scotland for an english is to leave the country? |
Sort of, yes, because Scotland is considered to be a country/nation without full sovereignty. I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there.
| Pauline wrote: | | Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland? |
Yes, probably about three times a year. They might occasionally come and visit me as well. I actually think that it would be better for our relationship like that. 
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Pauline
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| Benjamin wrote: | | I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there. |
what must you do to be scottish? Can the scottish people know that you're english?
| Benjamin wrote: | | Pauline wrote: | | Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland? |
Yes, probably about three times a year. They might occasionally come and visit me as well. I actually think that it would be better for our relationship like that. |
Where will you live- in the university? Will you get homesickness?
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Benjamin [inactive]
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| Pauline wrote: | | Benjamin wrote: | | I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there. |
what must you do to be scottish? Can the scottish people know that you're english? |
At least as far as the government is concerned, to become Scottish, I would have to state my primary residence as being in Scotland, by signing onto the electoral roll there. Although admittedly, many people originally from Scotland would probably not view me as Scottish, because I hadn't been brought up there, and because I'd probably still speak like an English person. But then again, very very posh Scottish people speak like 'posh' English people anyway — but maybe I could attempt to adopt a Scottish accent.
| Pauline wrote: | | Where will you live- in the university? |
I'll probably live in a university-owned apartment for the first year, and then I'll probably have to rent my own apartment nearby for the other years.
| Pauline wrote: | | Will you get homesickness? |
I hope not. But to be honest, I don't feel much emotional attachment to Birmingham anyway. And ultimately, I'll have to leave home one day — and probably the sooner the better.
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Pauline
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Will you visit the forum when you will be at university? Probably after next spetember (or before for exemple june, I don't exactly know) then I will visit only during the weekends but I think that it's okay. Then there will be *very* much reading!!
Shouga, I can't rememebr, will you go to the university also after the summer?
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Uriel
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| Quote: | I also heard that usually, as soon the majority is obtained, a lot of Americans leave quite rapidly their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?
At what average age do most American live parent's home ? |
I left home at 18 (legal majority), but didn't actually start working until very late (by our standards) -- 22. (When my parents both mentioned, separately, that I was damn expensive and I needed to start pulling my weight, as I wasn't a kid anymore.) But the law allows you to work part-time (20 hours a week) at 16 (younger for farm work), and to drop out of school at that age too, if you so desire.
I went to school in California. My father (who was my custodial parent) lived in Japan at the time, and my mother lived in Georgia -- so I was at least 3000 miles from either parent. I have never returned to live with either one.
I also didn't get a driver's license until 22 -- also very late, by American standards (but I had extenuating circumstances! honest!). Most states allow driving by the age of 16 -- usually with some restrictions.
More and more children are staying home longer and longer, or leaving an returning when their job searches or marriages don't pan out, but I think the norm is still to aim for leaving home at 18. For whites anyway. Hispanics tend to cling to the homestead longer, and I think blacks often have to start working earlier and more seriously at a younger age, especially if they are poorer. (Middle and upper class blacks probably conform to the white norm, although I think their family structure is often closer -- more like hispanics'.) I don't know what the norm is for Asian-Americans -- if there is one.
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Shouga
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| Pauline wrote: | Will you visit the forum when you will be at university? Probably after next spetember (or before for exemple june, I don't exactly know) then I will visit only during the weekends but I think that it's okay. Then there will be *very* much reading!!
Shouga, I can't rememebr, will you go to the university also after the summer? |
No, I'm too young for university. But I will be starting my A Levels or the International Baccalaureate, possibly at a new college.
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Julian
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Re: Job Hunting - an update | Porthos wrote: | | I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point. |
Congratulations. Lotsa luck to ya!
| fab wrote: | | It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here. |
I didn't start working until I was done with high school, but many of my friends and HS classmates started working at 16 or 17. I think most high schools have a program where students can work for work experience credit.
| Quote: | | I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ? |
I didn't leave home until after I graduated from university (24 yrs old), and when I finally moved out everyone said "It's about time! Your parents should've kicked you out of the house at 18!" I think in most Anglo-American households you're expected to be out of the house and on your own at 18 years old.
| Uriel wrote: | | Hispanics tend to cling to the homestead longer ... I don't know what the norm is for Asian-Americans -- if there is one. |
Asian-Americans, like Hispanics, are more family-oriented and tend to stay home until marriage. Sometimes they get married and they still stay home with mom and dad, making the single-family home a multi-family one. That's when the garage gets converted into living space.
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Benjamin [inactive]
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We have two next-door neighbours. On the one side, there's a man who's about 25 and still lives with his parents, although he did go to university near London for about three years. And on the other side, there's a man who's about 55 and still lives with his parents — and I've seen his 85-year-old mother washing his hair in the kitchen sink. I just don't want to end up like that, which is why I'm vowing not to return to live indefinitely with my parents after I've left for university in the autumn.
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David
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| fab wrote: | It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here.
I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?
At what average age do most American live parent's home ?
Here it is not surprising to have young people of 25-30, sometimes more, still living with their parents.
I should recognize I left parent's home only Three years ago, when I worked for the first time after I had finished my studies, at 26. |
Most Americans leave for college at age 18, or go into the workforce. 26 years old and still living with your parents is not that odd, considering that many people may be struggling with their first tastes of life on their own, but it is certainly not the norm.
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Porthos
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Update time!
I've recieved additonal interview offers. My latest offer was at an insurance company. And I've also learned that I'm going to be hired on my 18th birthday at Wells Fargo bank. The pay will be good and they'll pay for college. Apparently, all the bankers love me there. They're all so impressed.
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Uriel
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Well, that's good news!
Now, make sure you live up to their expectations -- a free ride like that doesn't come along every day.
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Deborah
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Congratulations, Josh!
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Pauline
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Wow!! So you've a job and they will pay your studies as well? Wonderful!!!
     
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Porthos
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Thank you Deb!
Pauline,
When do you plan on working? Will you work while you're in grade school at a later date perhaps?
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Pauline
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| Porthos wrote: | Pauline,
When do you plan on working? Will you work while you're in grade school at a later date perhaps? |
What does mean: grade school? Secondary school?
My school is for academic study and then you can go to the university when you are 18, but in the next months I will change to go to another school what's not this type so I don't exactly know how this will be. During school I don't work -it's not possible I think. Some people have some work the saturdays when they're 17, 18 but probably I won't.
Then at the university I will study medicine so there won't be time for other (different) work as well. I think that during this study you work for exemple with a GP or in the general hosiptal. Then after you have the qualification Dr, you can make the speciality psychiatry (or whatever direction you chose, neurology, cardiology etc...). It will be very much for me because I'm quickly tired, so then to work and study it wouldn't be possible.
Studies in Belgium aren't so expensive as in the US (*very* much lesser expensive), also I think my parenst will pay. I didn't ask them, but I suppose it. So, after those studies I will work, I'm not sure how old will I be, about 28 (?)
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Porthos
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| Pauline wrote: | | Porthos wrote: | Pauline,
When do you plan on working? Will you work while you're in grade school at a later date perhaps? |
What does mean: grade school? Secondary school?
My school is for academic study and then you can go to the university when you are 18, but in the next months I will change to go to another school what's not this type so I don't exactly know how this will be. During school I don't work -it's not possible I think. Some people have some work the saturdays when they're 17, 18 but probably I won't.
Then at the university I will study medicine so there won't be time for other (different) work as well. I think that during this study you work for exemple with a GP or in the general hosiptal. Then after you have the qualification Dr, you can make the speciality psychiatry (or whatever direction you chose, neurology, cardiology etc...). It will be very much for me because I'm quickly tired, so then to work and study it wouldn't be possible.
Studies in Belgium aren't so expensive as in the US (*very* much lesser expensive), also I think my parenst will pay. I didn't ask them, but I suppose it. So, after those studies I will work, I'm not sure how old will I be, about 28 (?) |
DAMN!! I couldn't imagine not working until the age of 28. I'm speaking from an American perspective of course. But if you could get away with it, do so by all means!
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Benjamin [inactive]
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I kind of like the idea of staying in university for as long as possible. I'm probably going to do a five year first degree course anyway, but then after that, I could then do a one year MLitt, followed by a two year research Master's, followed by a PhD, followed by a teaching qualification... that should last me until I'm 32, at least!
By the way... I received an offer from the University of St Andrews the other day, which where I think I really want to go, so I'm obviously very pleased about that!
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Pauline
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| Benjamin wrote: | | I kind of like the idea of staying in university for as long as possible. I'm probably going to do a five year first degree course anyway, but then after that, I could then do a one year MLitt, followed by a two year research Master's, followed by a PhD, followed by a teaching qualification... that should last me until I'm 32, at least! |
LOL !! Then we will finish our studies about the same time, as I'm 3 years younger. BUT I will win this competition, because then after the studies I will have some children so then I won't work until they all are going to school when I will be 45.    What do you think about the age 45 to start work, Porthos?
| Quote: | | By the way... I received an offer from the University of St Andrews the other day, which where I think I really want to go, so I'm obviously very pleased about that! |
It's good news!  
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Porthos
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| Quote: | I received an offer from the University of St Andrews the other day, which where I think I really want to go, so I'm obviously very pleased about that!
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Isn't that where the crown prince attended?
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Deborah
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Congratulations to you, too, Benjamin!
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Porthos
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I got offered an internship today! lol. I had to tell them I was only 17. lol
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Deborah
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| Porthos wrote: | | I got offered an internship today! lol. I had to tell them I was only 17. lol |
Lying about one's age is very common in the dance world. Imagine my surprise when my older brother (also a dancer) arrived in NY a few months after I did and was suddenly my younger brother.
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Benjamin [inactive]
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| Porthos wrote: | | Quote: | I received an offer from the University of St Andrews the other day, which where I think I really want to go, so I'm obviously very pleased about that!
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Isn't that where the crown prince attended? |
Yes, that's right. It's basically a small town on the east coast of Scotland, and it's very difficult to get to, as I am discovering as I try to organise a visit there next month.
| Porthos wrote: | | I got offered an internship today! lol. I had to tell them I was only 17. lol |
Congratulations — but I thought you were 17... or do you mean that that's too young, and that they thought you were older?
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Porthos
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| Quote: | | Congratulations — but I thought you were 17... or do you mean that that's too young, and that they thought you were older? |
Yes, I mean that that's too young and they thought I was older. It is a position usually reserved for upper-classmen in college, or even college graduates. I'm a smooth talker and a good salesman, but I have no professional education in finance and or business administration, so I think I'm under qualified and far too young.
I still have 1 1/2 years of high school to complete before I'm even in college!
Oh and congratulations on your acceptance to St. Andrews. Maybe you'll encounter a few famous alumni, like Prince William, lol.
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Deborah
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Oh. So my story was totally off the mark. I've never heard of anyone in the dance world wanting to seem older than they are.
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Uriel
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[quote="Benjamin"]I kind of like the idea of staying in university for as long as possible. I'm probably going to do a five year first degree course anyway, but then after that, I could then do a one year MLitt, followed by a two year research Master's, followed by a PhD, followed by a teaching qualification... that should last me until I'm 32, at least!
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You may not believe it now, but school gets old after a few years.
Pauline, it will be pretty hard to get a job at the age of 45, when half your life has gone by without any useful work experience. And why would you not work while you had children? Not many women I know can afford that luxury. Children usually mean needing more money, not an unemployed adult in the house.
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Pauline
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| Uriel wrote: | | Pauline, it will be pretty hard to get a job at the age of 45, when half your life has gone by without any useful work experience. And why would you not work while you had children? |
Don't worry, it was a joke
My first message was seriously meaned, but I thought that Bejnamin made quite a joke about studying until age 32, so I joked about start work age 45. Just very silly thing For sure I dont'want to have so many children, maybe one, two or not at all. It was because Porthos wrote about in the US the people get work very young.
| Quote: | | Not many women I know can afford that luxury. Children usually mean needing more money, not an unemployed adult in the house. |
My mother don't work. She worked before, I don't know when she stopped.In Belgium if a mother dont work it's not referred unemployed but mother because unemployed mean that you receive benefits for living. It's often that mothers work (part-time) or don't, but maybe in the US they must work. Sometimes it can be the father who is at home with the children and the mother work. I know a family their mother work and their father not.
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bruce
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Congratulations, Porthos, on getting the job!
I was really surprised to see that you listed Albertons among the places that you wanted to work. Working at Albertsons is so much more different than working at an insurance company or at a law firm or at a bank!
I'm glad that you found a *professional* job that will train you for your future.
I, myself, and preparing to go job hunting. Once my summer vacation starts, I'm going to sport a pair of slacks, a dress shirt, and a nice tie to go job hunting. I really want a "professional job" like at a bank or office, but I have absolutely ZERO experience, so I think I'd be more suited working at a restaurant or retail store. *blahhhhhhh*
My piano teacher offered me a job as a receptionist at the music academy's office, but she's paying me under the able and *less than minimum wage* so I don't want to take the job. But I've already accepted the job and I agreed to start in the summer. But now that I'm changing my mind about working there, I don't want to tell her because then it'd get awkward...
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bruce
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haha, oops, I look like an idiot, huh?
I just posted a reply to a probably-dormant thread...I should pay more attention to date and time of the "last post"
haha, forgive me.
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André in Zuid-Afrika
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Don't worry, no thread here is ever considered "dead", just "resting"! So you can reply, no matter how lang ago the previous post was made. It frequently happens that people revive old threads.
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Porthos
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| André in Zuid-Afrika wrote: | | Don't worry, no thread here is ever considered "dead", just "resting"! So you can reply, no matter how lang ago the previous post was made. It frequently happens that people revive old threads. |
Yeah, truly all the time!
Now I'm working at Albertsons and Edward Jones Investments. And I soon might add a third part time job to my schedule if I decide to work as a server at a Bistro soon. So busy, but I so desperately need money! 
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