'Indian' (a very broad term, and is often more Bangladeshi here anyway) — however, this is often not really considered 'foreign' anymore, if you know what I mean.
'Chinese' (an equally broad term) would be second.
I'm not sure that I'd really group other European food (e.g. French, Italian etc.) into a 'foreign' category like this at all.
Joanne
Re: libanese food
fab wrote:
is it popular in your country ?
What is the most popular foreign food ?
Lebanese food isn't very popular in the US, Fab. Lebanese restaurants are usually found in metropolitan areas only.
I think the most popular foreign food here is still "Chinese food." I put that in quotes because what passes for Chinese food here isn't actually Chinese food. (If you asked a Chinese person how to make "General Tso's Chicken" he would probably look at you like you just farted in his teapot...) What kind of term is "Chinese food," anyway? It's as ambiguous as "European food."
My personal favorites are Afghan and Vietnamese cuisine.
Deborah
From San Francisco to the Mexican border, Mexican food is certainly one of the most popular. In fact, even back in the '50s, when I was a little kid and about all we had were Mexican, Chinese and Italian restaurants, I hardly even thought of Mexican food as foreign food. However, back then, the only Mexican food we knew was the lunchtime stuff -- enchiladas, tacos, etc., served as a dinner course with rice and beans. Now there are Mexican restaurants that served a greater variety of dishes.
Chinese food was and still is very popular, although, as Joanne pointed out, it has developed along its own path in the US, as it probably has in any other country where it's been around for a long time. I've noticed that San Francisco Chinese food tastes different from New York Chinese food or London Chinese Food (judging from when I was there in 1970).
My current favorite is Thai, with Cambodian and Vietnamese running a close second. Probably Indonesian would be also, but I'd have to leave the neighborhood to find it. Indian is also way up there. I still do enjoy Chinese food very much, but I'm so used to it that it's almost as un-foreign as Mexican food. I also love Italian cooking. French restaurants tend to be too expensive for me, and there are none in my neighborhood, but I loved the cooking when I was in France.
The little bit of Persian and Afghani cooking I've tasted were delicious, but I haven't eaten much of it because it's not geared toward non-carnivores.
As for Lebanese cooking, I love it. When I was bellydancing in Middle Eastern restaurants, I ate in those restaurants. But in those days, I was a vegetarian, so all I could order were the meza plates (with hummus, baba ghanouj and such). Now that I eat seafood, I should probably try the fish in one of those restaurants, but I'm too lazy to go to restaurants out of my neighborhood. I still get falafel, though, if I happen to be hungry when I pass a Middle Eastern take-out place.
However, my roommate is half Lebanese (or maybe Syrian, I'm not sure) and her sister is married to a Palestinian, so when I go to their holiday dinners, there are always a few Middle Eastern dishes. Recently her brother-in-law sent us a container of his homemade falafel mix, which we fried up. It was the tastiest falafel I've ever eaten. I had the same reaction to his hummus and his baklava.
I also like Ethiopian/Eritrean food, but, again, I'd have to go out of the neighborhood to find a restaurant.
Oh, and I like Japanese food in general, but I love sushi.
Shouga
Re: libanese food
Joanne wrote:
fab wrote:
is it popular in your country ?
What is the most popular foreign food ?
Lebanese food isn't very popular in the US, Fab. Lebanese restaurants are usually found in metropolitan areas only.
I think the most popular foreign food here is still "Chinese food." I put that in quotes because what passes for Chinese food here isn't actually Chinese food. (If you asked a Chinese person how to make "General Tso's Chicken" he would probably look at you like you just farted in his teapot...) What kind of term is "Chinese food," anyway? It's as ambiguous as "European food."
My personal favorites are Afghan and Vietnamese cuisine.
I agree. I have never tried Lebanese (or Afghan or Vietnamese). I am from England, and "Chinese food" is also popular here. I have only ever tried Chinese, although some of my friends have had Indian etc.
'farted in his teapot'!
and I have also tried Japanese food, thinking about it. but it's not as nice as "Chinese" (not that Chinese food is remotely Chinese anywhere outside of China, anyway)
Deborah
In my neighborhood in San Francisco, there are also a lot of Salvadoran restaurants, as well as some Nicaraguan and Honduran ones. I like them, but I prefer Mexican.
Joanne
Deborah wrote:
In my neighborhood in San Francisco, there are also a lot of Salvadoran restaurants, as well as some Nicaraguan and Honduran ones. I like them, but I prefer Mexican.
I'm not too crazy about Latin American cuisine, really. (I'm not including Mexico's cuisine in that, because it's utterly different.) When I was younger, I used to go to South America a lot, and I always came back five pounds lighter. The food, like American "meat and potatoes," was too bland for me: generally it was beans, oily rice, a big slab of beef or goat, some salt, and maybe some vinegar if the stars were aligned just so. I lived off the yummy fruits they had, like pitayas, grenadillas, papayas, bananas, and guava. In Colombia (not so much the other countries), they also have delicious, insanely sweet pastries and desserts which actually make the throat hurt when swallowing them...
I'm getting hungry. Time for dinner.
Shouga wrote:
'farted in his teapot'!
Er... Sorry. Oscar Wildean and Pythonesque humor is brilliant, but keeping my brow high for too long will give me wrinkles.
greg in noord-frankrijk
Lebanese is very popular in Paris. I love Lebanese food. Particularly chawarma, taboulé, falafels & kaftas.
—> chawarma
—> taboulé
—> falafels
—> kaftas (keftas)
Deborah
Joanne wrote:
Oscar Wildean and Pythonesque humor is brilliant, but keeping my brow high for too long will give me wrinkles.
Is Monthy Python highbrow?? Click here and come to your own conclusion.
[I just provided a better link.]
fab
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I'm not too crazy about Latin American cuisine, really.
I don't think we could qualify a "latin american cooking", food in LA is different in the different regions.
Basically I tend to think that, generalising, the latin-American cooking most people would think first is the Mexican one, thank to its exposure in the US since decades.
In costa Rica I discovered a quite different cooking - but still many similarities due to the "tropical" products. While i tend to think the southern cone cooking, of temperate climates, to be mainly made of red meats, and mediterranean-type products.
Deborah
fab wrote:
While i tend to think the southern cone cooking, of temperate climates, to be mainly made of red meats, and mediterranean-type products.
Sorry, I can't figure out what this means.
Lazar
I think my favorite type of foreign food would be Indian - there's a Punjabi restaurant round here that I love to go to. I went to a Thai restaurant once, and I really liked that as well, but unfortunately they closed. I'd like to get to know Thai food better.
Deborah wrote:
Sorry, I can't figure out what this means.
At least as I understand it, "Southern Cone" (or "Cono Sur") refers to Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay.
Deborah
Lazar wrote:
At least as I understand it, "Southern Cone" (or "Cono Sur") refers to Argentina, Chile, and Uruguay.
Thanks, I hadn't heard that term.
Loic
I have had occasion to sample Lebanese deserts before and I must say that they didn't agree very well with my palate. They were too sweet and I had a sore throat the day after.
I'd like to point out that although Chinese food in america might have evolved in a slightly different path, the techniques and ingredients used would still be the same with any sort of chinese cooking found throughout the world. There is still rice, isn't it? There are also noodles, aren't there? There is also a spot of dog meat, isn't it? Opps...I am digressing.
Over here, we cannot consider Indian food to be foreign as they form 8% of the population, or so I was told by the most recent census. Just like the English with their penchant for curry, we also like curry here. In fact, I wonder if the word 'curry favour' was not invented in this region. The Chinese also have their own curry; the Malays also have their version. By far, I think the Bengalese curry is the spiciest while the Punjabi one smells too much of milk, in my opinion.
One foreign food that has made great inroads in recent years is the Turkish kebab. It is still not universally known here as the popularity of the dish has been mainly confined to the Muslims e.g. Malays, Indian Muslims, Arabs, Turks, etc, but I am rather fond of Muslim food so I have been eating quite a bit of kebab.
Lazar, Thai food is notoriously spicy. Even I cannot take it at times - my eyes would water and my nose becomes runny. It is a wonder that the Thais are still so placid after growing up on a diet of spice and more spice.
Joanne
Deborah wrote:
Joanne wrote:
Oscar Wildean and Pythonesque humor is brilliant, but keeping my brow high for too long will give me wrinkles.
Is Monthy Python highbrow?? Click here and come to your own conclusion.
[I just provided a better link.]
I tend to think most farces are highbrow, and MP is nothing if not farcical...
Lowbrow: SNL - Special Christmas box (WARNING: Youtube considers this SNL short to be explicit. If you trust Youtube's judgment on these matters, don't watch it.)
One foreign food that has made great inroads in recent years is the Turkish kebab. It is still not universally known here as the popularity of the dish has been mainly confined to the Muslims e.g. Malays, Indian Muslims, Arabs, Turks, etc, but I am rather fond of Muslim food so I have been eating quite a bit of kebab.
I really love Döner kebab, too! It is one the most popular fast food dishes in Germany, although the German version - which was invented by Turkish immigrants in Berlin - is somewhat different from the original Turkish Döner.
...I just ate one yesterday...mmh
Julian
greg in noord-frankrijk wrote:
Lebanese is very popular in Paris. I love Lebanese food. Particularly chawarma, taboulé, falafels & kaftas.
All of these foods you mention can be found in Greek, Armenian, and Persian restaurants and there are plenty of those in Los Angeles. I think most Angelenos would associated this type of cuisine with Greece first, and Armenia or Iran a close second.
Benjamin [inactive]
We have Döner kebabs here as well, and although I've never actually tried it, I don't really think of it as 'foreign' either because it is so common. Likewise, pizza and pasta is not 'foreign' either, even though it is not 'traditional' British food (if such a thing actually exists).
patriccke
Lebanese / Syrian food is one of my favourite. I particularly like the shish taouk (marinated & grilled chicken dice).
And after the meal a narghile (shisha):
How do you call that again André? Hubbly bubbly???
Deborah
Does anyone else here like mujadara (pronounced "mjadra")? It's a simple dish of lentils, rice and onions, topped with caramelized onions. There's a take-out lunch place I used to go to (I'm too far away now) that had the best mujadara. At the recommendation of the owner (Palestinian), I'd add in some of his salad that accompanied it. The salad was a typical one of cucumbers, tomatos, red onions with an olive oil-lemon juice-garlic dressing, but the special touch was the diced lemons.
I've also had mujadara with currants added to the rice-lentil mix and pine nuts added to the caramelized onions. Mmm-mm!
patriccke
I've never tried but it sounds really good. I have to find a place where they make it!
Loic
Icke: The great thing about kebab is that it makes for such a fantastic complete meal - it is quite filling. It is a pity that kebab doesn't come in pork as mutton and beef are red meat and I am a little averse to too much of that.
Deborah: Is that Indian food? I have no idea as I am not a connoisseur of food from the Indian subcontinent. I am mostly familiar with the South Indian Tamil variety. North Indian food is a little exotic to me as the majority of the Indians here have forebears who hail principally from Tamil Nadu.
Benjamin: I am sure traditional Anglo-Saxon food does exist. What'd King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table have eaten? Surely not pizza or curry. Probably lots of venison, though.
Dites-moi: C'est quoi, la pizza?
Benjamin [inactive]
loic wrote:
Surely not pizza or curry. Probably lots of venison, though.
Probably nothing which resembles what people might think of as 'traditional British food' today.
Harrenys Targaryen
It's one of the world's finest, in my humble opinion.
In fact, I dined yesterday at what is quite possibly the most authentic "slice of Beirut" in the city.
It is a pity that kebab doesn't come in pork as mutton and beef are red meat and I am a little averse to too much of that.
Well, as a vegetarian, I am averse to meat in general
And you are right that it is rather filling. One Döner for lunch and I'm full up for the rest of the day!
Deborah
loic wrote:
Deborah: Is that Indian food?
I assume you're referring to mujudara. Sorry, I forgot to mention that it's a Middle Eastern dish. There's also koshari, a lentil and rice dish eaten in Egypt which adds macaroni to the mix and serves it with a tomato sauce.
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I have no idea as I am not a connoisseur of food from the Indian subcontinent. I am mostly familiar with the South Indian Tamil variety. North Indian food is a little exotic to me as the majority of the Indians here have forebears who hail principally from Tamil Nadu.
FYI, loic, I met someone at a party tonight (an American) who claimed that the best Indian cooking is found in Singapore. He's never been to India, though.
Loic
Well, I believe that the gentleman friend of yours was just being generous with his compliments. Authentic Indian food can only be found in the native heartlands after all. Maybe what he meant is that Indian food in Singapore is not altered to suit the palates of the home market.
I read that curries in the West is very much a watered down version of their native selves with plenty of the zing that comes with the spice removed. In say Britain or America, Indian restaurants probably have to take into consideration the gastric juices of their consumers before whipping up something in the kitchen.
In contrast, the primary clientele of Indian restaurants here seems to be Indians. The chefs have no need to alter the recipes for the Indian market here is vast enough to keep their businesses afloat. As I mentioned earlier, the Indian community forms roughly 8% of the population here and this does not include the 200,000 odd Bangladeshi workers here who come here in droves to take up blue collar work which most locals shun. Considering that there are only 4 million people squeezed cheek to jowl on the island, that's a lot of people.
Porthos
I'm a big fan of middle eastern cuisine. So much in fact, that I've even entertained the idea of trying to marry a middle eastern woman. But then I thought of the possibiliy that she might expect me to beat her on occasion, and so I ruled that out. Lol.
In Las Vegas there was this incredible Afghan place. It was delicious. Out here, I haven't found any good middle eastern places, but the only middle eastern food I've had are Lebonese, Persian, and Afghan. I imagine Persian and Afghan are very similar, as the people are closely related, speak a similar language, etc. But I've never tried food specifically from Arab countries, but it's probably very similar, although I don't wish to speculate. I of course love Greek food as well.
This reminds me. Have any of you ever had Rose ice cream? It's a Persian dessert and it's out of this world.
Deborah
Porthos wrote:
This reminds me. Have any of you ever had Rose ice cream? It's a Persian dessert and it's out of this world.
Yes! I've also had a sort of rice pudding, made from rice flour rather than whole grains, that's rose-flavored. I don't remember what type of restaurant I had it in (I think it was Indian), but I liked it very much.
I've also had rice pudding with cardamom in a Middle Eastern restaurant -- delicious -- but I think that's more typical of Indian cooking.
Daniel
I think pitta bread is Lebanese, isn't it?
I eat it all the time and I love it with houmous.
You can stuff any fillings inside the pitta and eat it.
Deborah
Daniel (and anyone else), have you ever mixed pomegranate kernels into your hummus or baba ghanouj? I had the latter made that way at a party at my Arabic teacher's home, and my roommate's brother-in-law makes hummus that way. Both of these people are Palestinian; I don't know how widespread this practice is. Anyway, it's delicious.