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André in Zuid-Afrika

Rugby World Cup

Even though this is still about ten months away, the qualifiers are underway.







The automatic qualifiers from 2003 are: England, Australia, New Zealand, France, Ireland, Scotland, South Africa and Wales.

The following teams have also qualified: Samoa (Oceania 1), Fiji (Oceania 2), Argentina (Americas 1), Canada (Americas 2), USA (Americas 3), Italy (Europe 1), Romania (Europe 2) and Namibia (Africa 1).

Four positions still need to be filled.


In Pool A defending champions England and South Africa have been joined by Samoa and the USA with one side set to join them from the repechage rounds. On current form South Africa seems the slight favourite to win this pool, with both top teams struggling at the moment, but England struggling more than South Africa.

Australia and Wales have been joined in Pool B by Fiji and Canada with the winner of Asia's upcoming round-robin between Japan, Korea and Hong Kong to join them. Australia seems a certain winner here.

In Pool C Italy and Romania join New Zealand and Scotland with one more side to come from the repechage. New Zealand on top, of course!

In Pool D Namibia now joins France, Ireland and Argentina. Europe 3 will be the other team in this pool. France should be favourites, but on current form both Ireland and Argentina should not be underestimated.
Loic

I must say, I voted for France. Never underestimate the strength of a home ground advantage.
André in Zuid-Afrika

loic wrote:
I must say, I voted for France. Never underestimate the strength of a home ground advantage.


TRAITOR!

But you do have a point. At home, France will be very difficult to beat. But I can hope, can't I?
KSa

I voted on South Africa to toady the Administrator
BTW: is the championship still going on?
greg in noord-frankrijk

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
loic wrote:
I must say, I voted for France. Never underestimate the strength of a home ground advantage.


TRAITOR!

But you do have a point. At home, France will be very difficult to beat. But I can hope, can't I?


Sure !

Seriously, I didn't know that the tournament was to take place in France. It increases the support for the local team but also the pressure on their shoulders. We all know that pressure management can be a risky business with the French. So that's a double-edged advantage, I think.
André in Zuid-Afrika

greg in noord-frankrijk wrote:
André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
loic wrote:
I must say, I voted for France. Never underestimate the strength of a home ground advantage.


TRAITOR!

But you do have a point. At home, France will be very difficult to beat. But I can hope, can't I?


Sure !

Seriously, I didn't know that the tournament was to take place in France. It increases the support for the local team but also the pressure on their shoulders. We all know that pressure management can be a risky business with the French. So that's a double-edged advantage, I think.


True. The only time we've won, was when we hosted the tournament in 1995, beating New Zealand (15-12) after extra time. The huge partisan crowd certainly played a part.
Irrintzi

Hi!
My opinion :
France can win and it's my favourite for this cup (because nowadays they didn't win the word cup as other great national teams...), but the all blacks are very strongs....
André in Zuid-Afrika

Ah, another rugby lover!!
Loic

I suppose the French would say that of the All Blacks, seeing that they were comprehensively massacred in the first leg a few months back.

I heard today that England fly-half Johnny Wilkinson is to be recalled for an international against another country whose name has slipped my mind. Ahh...that bastard who drop kicks his side to victory.
André in Zuid-Afrika

I hate cricket.... So let's talk rugby!!!!
Loic

I don't blame you, mate, seeing how the Proteas were such a let-down yesterday.
Yelina

If I have a good memory, Loic, you'd like to go to one of the matches. Then, look at the list of the matches here and go order your ticket!
Loic

Gosh. World Cup tickets are always dear, aren't they? It doesn't matter if they are football or rugby or cricket. The organising committee is intent on charging the maximum possible price they can possibly exert without alienating their customers.
Yelina

Indeed, it's always expensive. But as people who are fond of sport don't mind spending such an amount, then, I don't see why committees would bother at reducing prices!

Well, as you'll be in France during the World Cup, you could watch it on your TV. It'd be even better as there will be close-ups on the actions whereas you wouldn't see them clearly in the stadium!
André in Zuid-Afrika

The Aussies are worried...

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Connolly sees light amid gloom
Wayne Smith
May 07, 2007

AUSTRALIA is without a team in the semi-finals for the first time since 1998, Eddie Jones is facing the sack as Reds coach after the worst defeat in Super rugby history, yet still Wallabies boss John Connolly refuses to concede all hope is lost for the World Cup.
The regular season of the Super 14 ended on a calamitous note for Australia when the Reds were thrashed 92-3 by the Bulls in Pretoria yesterday (AEST), eclipsing the record for the heaviest loss, the Waratahs' 96-19 hammering by the Crusaders in 2002.
Not only did that humiliation cap the worst season in Queensland's history but in the process it spelt the end of the Brumbies' wafer-thin chances of sneaking into the play-offs.

The Brumbies needed the Reds to pull off an utterly improbable win over the Bulls at Loftus Versfeld Stadium but from the moment the Pretoria team pulled down the kick-off and then drove the Queensland pack back 30m with a rolling maul, Brumbies coach Laurie Fisher knew it was all over.

The runaway win by the Bulls saw them snatch a home semi-final, with the Crusaders having to scramble to make unexpected plans to travel to South Africa as a result of Queensland's utter capitulation. The Sharks will host the other semi-final against the Blues in Durban, the first time in Super rugby that both play-off matches will be held in the republic.

Queensland aside, Connolly was well-pleased with the note on which the Super 14 competition ended for the Australian teams: the Brumbies registered their sixth consecutive win with a historic victory over the Highlanders in Dunedin; the Waratahs spoiled Tana Umaga's farewell party by beating the Hurricanes in Wellington; and Western Force won three home matches in succession before stumbling against the Blues on Friday night.

"Three of our four teams finished on a high," Connolly said. "And as far as the Wallabies are concerned, I've said from day one, even when the Australian teams were starting slowly, that once we got our top XV on the field, we'd be comfortable, provided the players came through the Super 14 in reasonably good shape."

The Wallabies' injury list is thinning fast, with Phil Waugh making a triumphant return for the Waratahs, Sam Cordingley coming through his first outing of the season without complications, Dan Vickerman set to return from his shoulder reconstruction next weekend and Chris Latham and Greg Holmes progressing well from their visits to the surgeon.

George Gregan, once again very much in the mix for the Test halfback position, was the only casualty of note from the weekend's round of matches.

Even Gregan's ankle ligament injury would not have caused him to miss next weekend's semi-finals had the Brumbies qualified.

The Reds finishing as the competition's basketcase could leave Connolly with some remedial work to restore the confidence of Queensland's few Test contenders.

"It is an issue when players have gone through what they've gone through," Connolly said.

Connolly will today name a squad of 45 players to assemble for a three-day camp in Sydney next week, with the 30-man party for the two Welsh Tests to be announced on May 20.

On the same day, the selectors also will announce the 25 players for Australia A.

Indications are the selectors will not venture too far beyond the tried-and-true in naming the Test squad, although pacy young wingers Lachlan Turner and Digby Ioane must be shortening for inclusion.

The vexed question of finding an understudy to Stephen Larkham at five-eighth remains a problem, with Waratahs playmaker Sam Norton-Knight possibly having edged in front of Reds youngster Berrick Barnes.

It remains to be seen whether it is also all over for Jones, whose debut season with the Reds has been memorable not for any on-field heroics -- Queensland won only two of its 13 games -- but for the many controversies in which the coach became embroiled.

It is understood a number of prominent Queensland rugby identities are pressuring QRU chairman Peter Lewis to dump Jones.

At a time when Jones desperately needs to be at home in Brisbane to repel borders, he will instead be in England for what he describes as "a week's holiday".

Yet rugby and English premiership club Saracens is likely to figure prominently in his plans.

Irrintzi

Well, after Tour de France and Athletism and its doping hecatombs, Bernard Laporte, the French rugby coatch is suspecting the All Blacks anti-doping inspections because of their bad accuracies... What else???
André in Zuid-Afrika

What I'd like to know is... who voted for Wales as likely winners of the World Cup?
André in Zuid-Afrika

Only two more days....
greg in noord-frankrijk

For the first time in my whole life I'm hoping that England will slash France completely. Something like 50-0 would be a wonderful surprise : I wouldn't like Laporte — a Sarkozian flunkey — to be appointed "minister" as a salary for victory. So good luck to all teams but France and may England win in Paris !

→ alliance of losers
Loic

That's not very sporting, Greg. Not to mention unpatriotic.

Allez Les Bleus!
Benjamin [inactive]

Seeing that I'll definitely be living in Scotland during the Rugby World Cup, I will be obliged to enthusiastically support whomever England is playing against, and then have a party whenever England lose — it's traditional.
greg in noord-frankrijk

Loic wrote:
That's not very sporting, Greg. Not to mention unpatriotic.

Allez Les Bleus!


C'est facile pour toi Loic : la France n'est pas ton pays, elle n'a pas une grande importance à tes yeux, et c'est tout à fait normal.

La France n'est pas seulement mon pays, c'est surtout le seul que j'ai et le seul que je veuille. L'arrivée, illégitime à plus d'un titre, d'un grotesque bouffon de carnaval, qui passe sa triste existence d'ectoplasme à éructer des conneries toutes plus grosses que lui, à la fonction dirigeante est un événement aussi catastrophique que la prise du pouvoir par Pétain à Vichy. Cette arrivée signe l'effondrement moral du pays face à de grossières manipulations médiatico-politiques. Sitôt élu (par seulement 43 % des Français mais avec toutes les voix de Le Pen), Sarkozy, tel un psychopathe évadé d'une institution, a fait main basse sur tout ce qui se présentait à son regard pour le réifier et l'incorporer magiquement à son être intime : médias, justice, police, internet, fric, douleur des victimes, précarité des étrangers, pédophilie, relations internationales, Tour de France etc. Même l'équipe de France de rugby a été aspirée dans l'orbite maladive du dangereux desposte qui prétend nous gouverner, via son petit objet transitionnel : Bernard Laporte. Lequel objet est destiné à une chosification ultérieure toute sarkozienne : finir "ministre" (des sports je crois, mais ça n'a aucune importance → Sarkozy aurait pu le nommer ministre des finances et des casinos) après la "victoire", que Sarkozy s'est plu à expliquer personnellement aux joueurs.

Tu comprendras donc sans peine qu'il est impératif que l'équipe de "France" perde cette coupe du monde. Et plus la défaite sera amère, plus vite les masques tomberont. La France n'est pas un accessoire de saltimbanque médiatique : c'est un pays dans lequel vivent 63 millions de personnes (dont l'immense majorité n'a *jamais* voté Sarkozy).
fab

Greg, je ne te trouve pas très démocratique dans tes propos... car si une majorité des Français n'a pas voté pour Sarkozy, il n'empèche que la majorité n'étais pas contre au point de le "bloquer" comme l'a voulu une certaine gauche. Je ne vois pas fondamentalement en quoi les "manipulations" de Sakozy seraient si différentes de celles d'un Mitterrand ou d'un Chirac... Je n'aime pas nécessairement particulièrement Sarko, mais j'accepte le verdict des urnes et j'espère que l'état de la France s'améliorera durant le prochain mandat, que le gouvernement réussisse - et j'aurais évidement souhaité la même chose si l'autre camp l'avait emporté.

Et puis franchement, heureusement qu'un pays ne se limite pas à un président - il y a 63 millions d'autres Français pouri qui la victoire de la France seraint la leur.

Je crois vraiment que tu met Sarkozy sur un "piedestal" (négatif dans ton cas) et surestime son importance. A l'heure de l'Europe un président n'est pas l'homme tout-puissant ce que certains (Sarkozy lui-même en premier lieu) voudraient faire croire. La meilleure façon de s'opposer à Sarko est de l'ignorer, car tout ce qu'il fait il le fait pour qu'on ne parle que de lui... donc n'en parlons pas tant ! séparons la nation de ses dirigeant actuels (qui sont temporaires, comme tous), et profitons de cette compétition pour nous rassembler malgré diveres origines et nos divergeances idéologiques !

Ce soir je soutiendrais de tout coeur la France et n'aurais pas la moindre pensée pour Sarkozy !!
greg in noord-frankrijk

Bonsoir fab ! J'admire ton stoïcisme et ton détachement. Mais il m'est impossible de faire comme si rien n'avait changé car tout est à revoir. Quand je parlais des manipulations de Sarkozy, je songeais à quelque chose de bien plus délétère que les infectes magouilles mitterrandiennes ou le cannibalo-tribalisme chiraquien. La cause est entendue : Mitterrand & Chirac étaient profondément obnubilés par leurs personnes et on peut dire que leurs carrières politiques c'est avant tout Massacre à la tronçonneuse : les cadavres (politiques) que tous deux ont laissés dans leur sillage en témoignent. Je ne veux pas trop m'étendre sur le sujet (ce salon est sur le rugby), mais la bonapartisation des esprits prend des proportions inquiétantes alors que les fautes et erreurs accumulées par Sarkozy et ses affidés — sans compter l'absence de tout résultat positif — atteignent un niveau jamais égalé en si peu de temps.

Par ailleurs je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a d'antidémocratique dans les propos que j'ai tenus. Et je ne me fais aucune illusion sur les "résultats" du locataire de l'Élysée : souhaiter sa réussite revient à souhaiter que la neige réchauffe ou le feu mouille. Enfin, je ne sacralise pas Monsieur Cécilia : je sais qu'il peut nuire à notre pays comme il a nuit à son propre camp.

Pour finir, j'en reviens au rugby. Quand l'entraîneur de l'équipe nationale affiche le "contrat" qu'il a passé avec le parrain de l'Élysée, il ne faut pas qu'il vienne pleurnicher sur l'opprobre qu'il s'attire et par ricochet sur l'équipe dont il a la charge. Certains transforment tout ce qu'ils touchent en or ; mais je te laisse le soin de deviner le don de Sarkozy... Mais on pourrait en reparler dans un salon ad hoc, si tu veux.
André in Zuid-Afrika



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Sky falls in on French dream2007-9-8 07:46Paris - The sky fell in on French hopes of maiden World Cup glory on Friday, admitted coach Bernard Laporte, after his side slumped to a shock 17-12 defeat to Argentina.

The soon to be French Sports Minister admitted that the hosts had not played well as they failed to overcome a 17-9 half-time deficit.

Laporte said they will have to raise their game if they were to emulate England and become the second northern hemisphere side to land the Webb Ellis trophy.

Even if France do progress to the knockout round, the worrying possibility is looming that they will finish second in Pool D and end up playing tournament favourites New Zealand in the last eight where they would have to try and repeat their epic victory in the 1999 semi-finals.

"When you begin a World Cup and it is imperative to win the match and you lose, you can say only one thing that the sky has fallen in on your head," said Laporte.

"We were not good and it is for us to raise our game. We have to win the three remaining games and then wait and see."

However, Laporte, who guided France to the 2003 semi-finals where they lost to England, insisted he had faith in his squad's ability to turn things round even though they probably face a do-or-die date with Six Nations Triple Crown winners Ireland on September 15 in Paris.

'We were fragile'

"We were counting on this match to get the World Cup campaign momentum going and we failed. We were fragile and febrile.

"We did not know how to lighten the pressure on the players and certain of them did not play to their best.

"However, I am convinced that this group has something about them and they will react to this.

"I believe in this squad, in these players. It is vital to raise our heads, immediately."

The former scrum-half, who has been criticised in some quarters for paying more attention to his advertising contracts and business interests, was at a loss to explain how his team, boasting hardened veterans like hooker Raphael Ibanez and former skipper Fabien Pelous, had cracked under the pressure.

"I don't know," said a bemused Laporte.

"Now we are going to look after the players. In terms of preparation for the match we did what was necessary.

"But this match was of a high level. And at certain times we weren't at that level."
greg in noord-frankrijk

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
Quote:
(...) The soon to be French Sports Minister (...)


You meant the ex-soon-to-be-etc.



Journée magnifique : 30° dans les rues de Paris et l'équipe de Sarkozy a été ridiculisée. Dommage que l'équipe de France n'ait pas pu participer à cette coupe du monde.



i Viva Argentina !
André in Zuid-Afrika



Quote:
'Boks laugh at England'
09/09/2007 11:01

London - England's performance against minnows the United States in their opening Rugby World Cup game was lambasted by British newspapers Sunday as "diabolical" and "appallingly poor."
Brian Ashton's side, who are attempting to defend the title they won in 2003, will not pose a significant threat to South Africa when the sides meet in five days' time, the papers predicted.

The Mail on Sunday said that the good news from the game was that England won 28-10 and there were no significant injuries to players.

"Now the bad news - and it is exceedingly bad news. The defending world champions were so appallingly poor that the South African team who watched the game from their team hotel could have cracked a few ribs, such would have been the extent of their laughter," the paper said.

Former England star Stuart Barnes wrote in the Sunday Times that the team was "as bad as England have been under Brian Ashton" and described them as "terminally ponderous."

"Ashton can talk all he likes about experience, but this squad has a tired 'yesterday's look' to it," Barnes wrote.

"What we saw from this squad of players was that they have no chance against a vibrant and confident South Africa."

Another writer in the same paper added: "England were diabolical. They played like a team in reverse rather than a team desperate to retain their world title."

The News of the World tabloid was barely more complementary, saying that the team was "off the pace all night."

It said that Olly Barkley's performance was "the lone bright spark" at least in the opening minutes of the game.

"For all bar a few minutes of the first half, it was hard to work out which team were the defending champions as England looked short of ideas and a shadow of the side of four years ago," it said.

"The Springboks will not be losing too much sleep over this one."



Later today it's South Africa vs Samoa....
André in Zuid-Afrika

Hmm... I don't think Italy's going to win the World Cup....

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All Blacks romp to victory2007-9-8 15:38

Marseille - New Zealand captain Richie McCaw has scored twice within the first seven minutes to inspire the World Cup favourites to a 76-14 win over Italy in their opening Pool C match on Saturday.
Right wing Doug Howlett completed a hat-trick of tries and left wing Sitiveni Sivivatu (two), centre Mils Muliaina, lock Chris Jack and flanker Jerry Collins (two)all scored.

McCaw scored his first try after only 64 seconds and the All Blacks romped to 43-0 before the Italians finally got on the board with an intercept try to left wing Marko Stanojevic just before halftime.

Centre Mirco Bergamasco scored a late try for Italy after a more spirited second half display by the Six Nations side.
André in Zuid-Afrika

Quote:
Boks romp home against Samoa
09/09/2007 18:01

Paris - Bryan Habana has scored four tries and Percy Montgomery contributed 29 points to South Africa's 59-7 victory over Samoa in Sunday's Rugby World Cup Group A game.
Fullback Montgomery also scored two of the Springboks' eight tries at the Parc des Princes as South Africa went to the top of the standings.

By scoring at least four tries, the Springboks gained a bonus point to go clear of England that posted a disappointing 28-10 victory over the United States on Saturday.

Montgomery also kicked three penalties and five conversions and Jaque Fourie and JP Pietersen scored South Africa's other two tries.

A try and a conversion by centre Bryan Williams meant the Samoans were only two points behind at 9-7 in the 18th minute.

But the South Africans took control after Habana and Montgomery scored their first tries to move into halftime leading 21-7.

Samoa's Brian Lima created a record by appearing in his fifth World Cup in a row only to stay on the field for four minutes as a second half substitute.

Lima, known as "The Chiropractor" for his powerful tackles, went off apparently dazed, coming off worse after a strong hit in the 65th minute.

News24
greg in noord-frankrijk

Poor Samoans !... L'Afrique-du-Sud a l'air en forme.
André in Zuid-Afrika

The results so far...

Ire (32) vs Nam (17)
Sco (56) vs Por (10)
SA (59) vs Samoa (7)
Wal (42) vs Can (17)
Eng (28) vs USA (10)
Aus (91) vs Jap (3)
NZ (76) vs Italy (14)
Fra (12) vs Arg (17)

Well done to Namibia, a country with less that 2 000 rugby players, who'd put up a great performance against Ireland!
André in Zuid-Afrika

All the results so far....

16 September France 87 - 10 Namibia
16 September Samoa 15 - 19 Tonga
16 September Fiji 29 - 16 Canada
15 September Ireland 14 - 10 Georgia
15 September Wales 20 - 32 Australia
15 September New Zealand 108 - 13 Portugal
12 September Italy 24 - 18 Romania
12 September Japan 31 - 35 Fiji
12 September USA 15 - 25 Tonga
11 September Argentina 33 - 3 Georgia
9 September Ireland 32 - 17 Namibia
9 September Scotland 56 - 10 Portugal
9 September South Africa 59 - 7 Samoa
9 September Wales 42 - 17 Canada
8 September England 28 - 10 USA
8 September Australia 91 - 3 Japan
8 September New Zealand 76 - 14 Italy
7 September France 12 - 17 Argentina


South Africa 36 England 0
André in Zuid-Afrika

We're getting close to the quarter final stage. Current log standings

Pool A
Pos Team P W Pts
1 South Africa 3 3 14
2 Tonga 3 2 9
3 England 3 2 9
4 Samoa 3 0 1
5 USA 2 0 0


Pool B
Pos Team P W Pts
1 Australia 3 3 15
2 Wales 3 2 10
3 Fiji 3 2 10
4 Japan 3 0 1
5 Canada 2 0 0


Pool C
Pos Team P W Pts
1 New Zealand 3 3 15
2 Scotland 3 2 10
3 Italy 3 2 8
4 Romania 2 0 1
5 Portugal 3 0 0


Pool D
Pos Team P W Pts
1 Argentina 3 3 14
2 France 3 2 10
3 Ireland 3 2 9
4 Georgia 2 0 1
5 Namibia 3 0 0


Index:
P - Played
W - Won
Pts - Total Points

In Pool A SA has secured a place, probably against Wales, while Tonga and England will play it out for the other place.

InPool B Australia is on top, and will play either England or Tonga. Wales seems like the other team to qualify, but Fiji is still in with a change.

From Pool C NZ is through, with Scotland probably the other team. Italy is still in with a change.

From Pool D Argentina is heading for a quarter final against Scotland or Italy, while France will face NZ.
André in Zuid-Afrika

Eish, England beating Australia in the quarter finals!!!
Loic

And France doing a 1999 by coming back from behind to once again send the All Blacks packing!
André in Zuid-Afrika

Loic wrote:
And France doing a 1999 by coming back from behind to once again send the All Blacks packing!



YES YES YES!!!!!!
André in Zuid-Afrika

We're through to the semi-finals by beating Fiji 37-20, but what a gruelling match it was. Leading 20-6, Fiji scoring two tries to bring it to 20-20.... The Springboks pulled it off, but congrats to a gutsy Fiji team. Now Scotland or Argentina awaits us....
André in Zuid-Afrika

England 14 France 9...

Well, for us this is good!! I think....

England is certainly seen here as an easier opponent than France, but on the other hand they are currently playing a lot better than at the start of the tournament, when it looked like they might not even make it to the quarters. And the very fact that we thrashed them then, might still be our downfall now.... Crying or Very sad

I'm fully confidant about tonight, but of course no one can ever be sure, especially at this World Cup where there had been so many surprises...
André in Zuid-Afrika

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South Africa 37 Argentina 13


Now England awaits...
greg in noord-frankrijk

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
England 14 France 9...

Well, for us this is good!! I think....

England is certainly seen here as an easier opponent than France, but on the other hand they are currently playing a lot better than at the start of the tournament, when it looked like they might not even make it to the quarters.

Agree. It's really better for South Africa to play England than France. In passing, congratulations to South Af' for winning against Argentina. I haven't seen the match, only TV rediffs, but it seems Argentina did what she could (unlike France against England) & South Africa is likely win the world cup. The Englishmen won't easily forget the 36-0 humiliation.

As for France, Laporte (the coach) only got what he deserved : a bitter defeat inflicted in Paris by an unconvincing, laborious English team and 40.000 English people singing God save the queen or whatever after the final whistle !!! First ridiculed by Argentina, then "strengthened" by victories against Namibia (87-10) & Georgia (64-7) only to end up seen off by England (14-9) . Glorieux !

Some (authorised) voices are now saying that what Laporte lacked was a sense of tactics & strategy. Exactly what is required in Sarkozy's government ! Good luck Bernard Laporte ! May you be as good a minister of sports as you were a rugby coach...
Loic

Disons que tu es le seul Français qui n’était pas derrière les XV des Bleus lors du match entre l’Angleterre et Les Bleus. C’est triste que la France n’a pas atteint son objectif de soulever la trophée William Webb Ellis. Elle a perdu son rêve. Alors que tu es content, voire heureux que Bernard Laporte n’a pas amené Les Bleus dans la finale de coupe du monde, j’éprouve néanmoins beaucoup de sympathie pour les accros de rugby à travers le pays. Le samedi soir, j’étais au sein de la foule sur le Champs de Mars. C’était très émouvant de voir Chabal pleurant après le match. J’ai fini par admirer les qualités défensives de l’équipe de rugby et aussi leur courage. C’est un très bon accomplissement que Les Bleus ont remporté le match face aux fameux néo-zélandais. Tu en es fier au moins, j’espère.

En fait, c’est vraiment très juvénile de critiquer Sarkozy tout le temps. Toi, tu seras sûrement pour le « jeudi noir » dans les transports publics qui va se dérouler demain même si l’opinion publique est majoritairement favorable à la réforme des régimes spéciaux de retraite. Ai-je raison de dire ça ?
greg in noord-frankrijk

Loic wrote:
Disons que tu es le seul Français qui n’était pas derrière les XV des Bleus lors du match entre l’Angleterre et Les Bleus.

Je n'ai rien contre les joueurs, bien évidemment, mais je ne crois pas être le seul à avoir souhaité que l'équipe de Sarkozy sombre en raison de ses fautes, la récupération politicienne n'étant pas la moindre de celles-ci.



Loic wrote:
C’est triste que la France n’a pas atteint son objectif de soulever la trophée William Webb Ellis. Elle a perdu son rêve.

It would be great if the French rugby team stopped dreaming and start to think about tactics & strategy.



Loic wrote:
Alors que tu es content, voire heureux que Bernard Laporte n’a pas amené Les Bleus dans la finale de coupe du monde, j’éprouve néanmoins beaucoup de sympathie pour les accros de rugby à travers le pays.

Moi aussi, je compatis à la déception des amoureux du rugby. Mais après tout, c'est à Bernard Laporte qu'ils doivent s'en prendre. Des sommités du rugby français commencent à dire tout haut ce que jusqu'ici ils pensaient tout bas de la direction Laporte : une faillite totale, tant tactique que stratégique. Les paillettes, l'affairisme et le copinage ne sont pas des bonnes recettes pour gagner. C'est une leçon que Sarkozy devrait méditer, et vite.



Loic wrote:
C’était très émouvant de voir Chabal pleurant après le match. J’ai fini par admirer les qualités défensives de l’équipe de rugby et aussi leur courage. C’est un très bon accomplissement que Les Bleus ont remporté le match face aux fameux néo-zélandais. Tu en es fier au moins, j’espère.

Je ne suis pas fier d'exploits sportifs auxquels je n'ai participé ! En revanche j'étais très content pour les joueurs de l'équipe de France après leur victoire sur les Néozélandais. Je comprends tout à fait que Chabal soit triste d'avoir perdu alors que la victoire sur l'Angleterre était largement à la portée de l'équipe française. Je comprendrais encore mieux s'il allait demander des comptes à Laporte.



Loic wrote:
En fait, c’est vraiment très juvénile de critiquer Sarkozy tout le temps. Toi, tu seras sûrement pour le « jeudi noir » dans les transports publics qui va se dérouler demain même si l’opinion publique est majoritairement favorable à la réforme des régimes spéciaux de retraite. Ai-je raison de dire ça ?

Non, je ne pense pas que tu aies raison car personne ne sait ce que pense l'« opinion publique ». Moi, en tout cas, je me fie pas aux sondages du Figaro et autres feuilles de chou détenues par les potes de Sarkozy. Quant à la grève, la question de savoir si elle me plaît ou non n'a aucune espèce d'importance : c'est un droit garanti par la constitution. Et en ce qui concerne la critique de Sarkozy, je crois que tu n'as encore rien vu : le pire de ce qu'il nous réserve reste à venir et tu te rendras bientôt compte de l'étendue de l'opposition à ses façons de faire. Mais même dès à présent, la collection d'échecs et de reculades suffit à construire une critique déjà bien fournie !...
André in Zuid-Afrika

We won. We are the world's rugby champions. And that's official...


South Africa 15 England 6


André in Zuid-Afrika

WE WON!!!!!!!
Josh Lalonde

It seems that England is incapable of winning any world-level sports competitions.
greg in noord-frankrijk

Félicitations à l'Afrique-du-Sud !

La seule équipe invaincue du tournoi.



André in Zuid-Afrika

Merci Greg!

Loved those pics!

The victory meant so much to us as a nation...
André in Zuid-Afrika

Well, we can still claim to be world champs, after beating the Six Nations champions, Wales, yesterday by 43-17. And after NZ struggled to beat Ireland.
André in Zuid-Afrika

And still the champs!!

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Bloemfontein - The Boks have defeated the All Blacks 28-19  in their first Tri-Nations match against the All Blacks at Vodacom Park.

Ruan Pienaar have scored the only try in the first half - almost in the same manner and side as his father did over twenty years ago.

But minutes later, Pienaar injured his ankle and was replaced by Morne Steyn in the second half.
 

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