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Benjamin [inactive] Connoisseur

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1687 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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It's certainly true that a lot of people in Western countries have a rather 'Eurocentric' view of South Africa -- to the extent that it is often grouped with Australia and New Zealand here. What really makes me laugh is when French people include South Africa in what the call le monde anglo-saxon -- which is totally inappropriate, in my opinion.
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André in Zuid-Afrika Site Admin

Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 1846
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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Benjamin wrote: | | It's certainly true that a lot of people in Western countries have a rather 'Eurocentric' view of South Africa -- to the extent that it is often grouped with Australia and New Zealand here. What really makes me laugh is when French people include South Africa in what the call le monde anglo-saxon -- which is totally inappropriate, in my opinion. |
Exactly. While it is true that English is widely used here, native English speakers form a small minority (around 8%) of the total population, and it is only the fifth largest (out of eleven) languages spoken as native language. That hardly makes South Africa an English speaking country.
 _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie. |
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KSa Langcaffeine Addict

Joined: 27 Aug 2006 Posts: 562
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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| I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name. |
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André in Zuid-Afrika Site Admin

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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| KSa wrote: | | I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name. |
BTW, whatever happened to Lech Walesa? _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie. |
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KSa Langcaffeine Addict

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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| André in Zuid-Afrika wrote: | | KSa wrote: | | I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name. |
BTW, whatever happened to Lech Walesa? |
After he'd got 1% of total votes in the presidential elections in 2000 he became less active until recently when he announced his 'come back' to politics in near future. |
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Porthos Moderator


Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 1780 Location: Californië, Verenigde Staten
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!  _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Porthos wrote: | I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!  |
LOL !!!  |
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Deborah Connoisseur


Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 1946 Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Porthos wrote: | I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!  |
Norma Jeane Baker = Marilyn Monroe
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Porthos Moderator


Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 1780 Location: Californië, Verenigde Staten
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Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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She is the same person as Marylin Monroe? Just a different name? _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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Deborah Connoisseur


Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 1946 Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
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Loic Super Moderator


Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1264 Location: Republik Singapura
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:25 am Post subject: |
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Not at all off-topic, Deborah. I suppose we need to know why Norma Jean Baker aka Marilyn Monroe is a good candidate for Person of the Century. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire. |
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Fredrik Langcaffeine Addict


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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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| loic wrote: | | Not at all off-topic, Deborah. I suppose we need to know why Norma Jean Baker aka Marilyn Monroe is a good candidate for Person of the Century. |
She was half-Norwegian.
And former Norwegian prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland said: It's typically Norwegian to be great!
Ergo: Marylin was the greatest!
Statue of Marilyn in her (alleged) father's home town, Haugesund:
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Porthos Moderator


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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Always so quick to claim Norweigan achievements aren't you Fred?  _________________ Operation Northwoods - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
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Fredrik Langcaffeine Addict


Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Posts: 630 Location: Bergen, Hordaland, Norge/Noreg
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Hehe yes, we are a small. insecure nation... |
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André in Zuid-Afrika Site Admin

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: |
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So do we have a verdict here yet? _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie. |
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Loic Super Moderator


Joined: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1264 Location: Republik Singapura
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Actually, shouldn't it be Albert Einstein? The other candidates put forth are illustrious in their own right and it is hard to take credit away from their achievements. Nelson Mandela is however primarily renowed for his fight against apartheid - an important work, but a largely localised one. Pope John Paul II was immensely esteemed and respected in his life, but even his charismatic appeal wasn't enough to hold sway over his flock, not to mention the non Catholic world.
But Albert Einstein gave us a complex theory of special relativity that has since been elegantly encapsulated in the world famous equation E=MC^2. Even people who have never studied physics has heard about it although they'd probably be hard pressed to explain its content.
As we now know, the understanding of this concept was key to the development of the atomic bomb. The fact that so little mass can be converted into exponentially larger energy was a revolutionary exercise in re-education as it altered the rules of neo-classical physics laid down by Newton. It basically changed how Man views his environment for good. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire. |
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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| I would chose Saint Francis of Assisi but he didn't lived during the 20th century. |
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Benjamin [inactive] Connoisseur

Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 1687 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Pauline wrote: | | I would chose Saint Francis of Assisi but he didn't lived during the 20th century. |
Likewise, I would choose Jesus Christ, although he didn't live during the 10th century either. |
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Akoni Expert


Joined: 11 Oct 2006 Posts: 169 Location: Nederland
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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:58 am Post subject: |
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I would choose anyone who made a difference in the 20th century and give them all a collective award.  _________________ My site: http://www.AntonKemmeren.com |
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Loic Super Moderator


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Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Akoni wrote: | I would choose anyone who made a difference in the 20th century and give them all a collective award.  |
Hmm...I was born in the 20th century and I reckon that my birth alone made an economic difference to the maternity ward where I was safely delivered. So I have a deserved share in that collective award. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire. |
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