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The Man of the 20th Century
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's certainly true that a lot of people in Western countries have a rather 'Eurocentric' view of South Africa -- to the extent that it is often grouped with Australia and New Zealand here. What really makes me laugh is when French people include South Africa in what the call le monde anglo-saxon -- which is totally inappropriate, in my opinion.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's certainly true that a lot of people in Western countries have a rather 'Eurocentric' view of South Africa -- to the extent that it is often grouped with Australia and New Zealand here. What really makes me laugh is when French people include South Africa in what the call le monde anglo-saxon -- which is totally inappropriate, in my opinion.


Exactly. While it is true that English is widely used here, native English speakers form a small minority (around 8%) of the total population, and it is only the fifth largest (out of eleven) languages spoken as native language. That hardly makes South Africa an English speaking country.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name.


BTW, whatever happened to Lech Walesa?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
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I wouldn't dare to say who was actually the man of the whole century so I can only try to mention those who (IMHO) contributed most to the fall of communism, namely: Ronal Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev. Plus John Paul II. Plus "Solidarity" movement, without mentioning any name.


BTW, whatever happened to Lech Walesa?

After he'd got 1% of total votes in the presidential elections in 2000 he became less active until recently when he announced his 'come back' to politics in near future.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!



LOL !!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not familiar with Norma Jean, but because of that picture, I'm considering voting for her as a candidate!

Norma Jeane Baker = Marilyn Monroe

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

She is the same person as Marylin Monroe? Just a different name?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porthos wrote:
She is the same person as Marylin Monroe? Just a different name?

The same. Here's a page with more early photos:

http://www.marilynmonroe.com/about/photos/dienes_photos.htm

(Sorry -- I won't pursue this off-topic topic further.)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not at all off-topic, Deborah. I suppose we need to know why Norma Jean Baker aka Marilyn Monroe is a good candidate for Person of the Century.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not at all off-topic, Deborah. I suppose we need to know why Norma Jean Baker aka Marilyn Monroe is a good candidate for Person of the Century.


She was half-Norwegian.
And former Norwegian prime minister Gro Harlem Brundtland said: It's typically Norwegian to be great!
Ergo: Marylin was the greatest!

Statue of Marilyn in her (alleged) father's home town, Haugesund:
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always so quick to claim Norweigan achievements aren't you Fred?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe yes, we are a small. insecure nation...
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do we have a verdict here yet?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, shouldn't it be Albert Einstein? The other candidates put forth are illustrious in their own right and it is hard to take credit away from their achievements. Nelson Mandela is however primarily renowed for his fight against apartheid - an important work, but a largely localised one. Pope John Paul II was immensely esteemed and respected in his life, but even his charismatic appeal wasn't enough to hold sway over his flock, not to mention the non Catholic world.

But Albert Einstein gave us a complex theory of special relativity that has since been elegantly encapsulated in the world famous equation E=MC^2. Even people who have never studied physics has heard about it although they'd probably be hard pressed to explain its content.

As we now know, the understanding of this concept was key to the development of the atomic bomb. The fact that so little mass can be converted into exponentially larger energy was a revolutionary exercise in re-education as it altered the rules of neo-classical physics laid down by Newton. It basically changed how Man views his environment for good.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would chose Saint Francis of Assisi but he didn't lived during the 20th century.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pauline wrote:
I would chose Saint Francis of Assisi but he didn't lived during the 20th century.

Likewise, I would choose Jesus Christ, although he didn't live during the 10th century either.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would choose anyone who made a difference in the 20th century and give them all a collective award.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would choose anyone who made a difference in the 20th century and give them all a collective award.


Hmm...I was born in the 20th century and I reckon that my birth alone made an economic difference to the maternity ward where I was safely delivered. So I have a deserved share in that collective award.
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