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Uriel
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Your 20 cents is in the mail. Don't spend it all in one place. 
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Loic
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Uriel wrote: | | Your 20 cents is in the mail. Don't spend it all in one place. |
Great. Just enough for me to visit a public toilet.
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Uriel
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| I can't believe there are places that actually make you pay for that privilege! France cracked me up. |
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Akoni
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At trainstations here it's €0,50 for the toilet. 
But anyways we all get 20 cents out of the prizemoney from person of the 20th century. 
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Benjamin [inactive]
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| Posted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Uriel wrote: | | I can't believe there are places that actually make you pay for that privilege! France cracked me up. |
So you'd never pay to use a public toilet here?
It's very common at train stations and places like that here to have to pay to use the toilet — you often have to insert money into a slot, which allows you to go through the barrier. Then at some toilets, there's an old women who sits by the door with a plate, and you have to put coins on the plate. I've often wondered whether they're actually employed to do that, or whether they're allowed to keep whatever they get providing they clean the toilet, or whether they just randomly decide to sit there and collect money. |
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Deborah
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| In my youth, pay toilets in the US were fairly common. The practice seems to have died out, though. |
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Deborah
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| I'd like to nominate Margaret Sanger for advocating reproductive rights for women; unfortunately, she also advocated eugenics. |
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Loic
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Eugenics and abortion are simply two sides of the same coin. When a mother and father choose to abort their child simply because he is suffering from a defect such as Down's Syndrome, they are practising eugenics at the base level.
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Pauline
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| I vote for Abbé Pierre. |
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Loic
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A good choice for the late priest, bless his soul. But his influence did not travel far beyond the boundaries of France so it is hard to argue that he deserves to be the perfect candidate.
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Pauline
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In Belgium he's very famous as well.
I don't know how far did travelled his influence, but truly good, kind people like Abbé Pierre probably don't have influence in all the world, btu where they have it's profound. Also, this influence can travel beyond the boundaries of France because of the inspiration he give all the other people. Very many people love Abbé Pierre. he will get my vote. |
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Wanderin
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| loic wrote: | | A good choice for the late priest, bless his soul. But his influence did not travel far beyond the boundaries of France so it is hard to argue that he deserves to be the perfect candidate. |
agree. Nobody knows him outside France or Belgium, there must be a person who is known all around the world and who is recognized by anyone. I even doubt that Franklin Roosewelt is a good choice, not much people outside of western world even know him, so my preference go to:
Merlyn Monroe
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John Lennon
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Fredrik
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Anne Frank. Simply because she was an ordinary scared and brave person who was in the midst of the greatest and most impact-laden tragedy of the 20th century and because our intimate knowledge of her private life signalled the media age we live in.
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Pauline
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Fredrik,
Heb je haar dagboek gelezen? Ik wel, maar ik heb pas nu gedacht dat ik een beetje dom ben geweest, want ik heb het in het frans gelezen, terwijl het in het nederlands oorspronkelijk geschreven was, en dus beter was geweest in die taal het boek te kiezen. Maar ja, zo erg is dat ook niet. Ik vind het toch nog lastig in nederlands een boek te lezen, misschien omdat ik het tot nu toe heel wenig heb gedaan. Heb jij veel boeken in het engels en duits gelezen? Akoni vertelde dat hij meer engelstalige boeken kent dan nederlandse!!! |
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Deborah
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Pauline, I read Anne Frank's diary, years ago (in English). Have you been to the Anne Frank museum in Amsterdam?
Gandhi, Mandela or Martin Luther King would all be good choices for Man of the 20th century. |
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Pauline
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| Deborah wrote: | Pauline, I read Anne Frank's diary, years ago (in English). Have you been to the Anne Frank museum in Amsterdam?
Gandhi, Mandela or Martin Luther King would all be good choices for Man of the 20th century. |
No, I havn't been to the museum - I havn't been to Amsterdam, but it would be interesting to visit.
I agree with those choices as well. |
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Geoff
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| I thought the answer was "The unsung hero". |
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Swede33
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I would say, Mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela.
Here you have two people who sacrified so much for their beliefs.
Mother Teresa for the poor and Nelson Mandela for equality between the black and white population in SouthAfrica.
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André in Zuid-Afrika
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We celebrated a very special birthday in South Africa today...
| Quote: | Nelson Mandela, anti-apartheid icon, Nobel peace laureate and South Africa's first black president, celebrated his 90th birthday Friday by doing something he had indicated he would not do again -- grant an interview to journalists.
Mandela sits at the 6th Nelson Mandela Lecture in Soweto, Johannesburg.
1 of 3 more photos » A cheerful-looking Mandela welcomed CNN's Robyn Curnow, along with reporters from two other organizations, into the sitting room of his home in Qunu, a small village in the rolling hills of South Africa's eastern Cape region where he grew up.
"What day is this?" Mandela joked, pretending not to realize it was his birthday.
He used a smile to dodge Curnow's first question of what was his favorite memory from his long life. He did say he was very happy to have lived to be 90.
Mandela credited his longevity to the way he conducted his life. He is known to be disciplined with his diet and exercise.
Asked if, in hindsight, he wishes he had spent more time with his family, he answered yes.
"I don't regret it because the things that attracted me were things that pleased my soul."
Graca Machel, whom he married on his 80th birthday, sat nearby and Mandela was surrounded by grandchildren. Watch Mandela's birthday celebrations »
Mandela then lamented the gap between rich and poor in South Africa.
"Poverty still grips our people. If you're poor, you're not likely to live for long," he said.
All week residents of Qunu, 600 miles south of Johannesburg, have been making preparations for the celebrations. Events planned include a soccer festival, a pop concert and lunch for 500 politicians, veterans of the anti-apartheid struggle and other guests at his home Saturday.
An exhibition of letters that children wrote to Mandela and the late U.S. civil rights campaigner Rosa Parks will be displayed at the Nelson Mandela Museum, a short distance from his house.
"We are very excited," local school principal Mpondomise Ndzambo told the Associated Press, sitting in his office beneath a photograph of the former president. "Usually these celebrations are done in Johannesburg, so this is a way of being part of it." Send your birthday messages
In 1964, a court sentenced Mandela to life in prison for plotting to overthrow the government by violence. He spent the first 18 years at Robben Island Prison, off Cape Town, South Africa, and later spent time at Pollsmoor prison and Victor Verster Prison, closer to the mainland.
While in prison, Mandela became recognized as the most significant black leader in South Africa, and he became a potent symbol of resistance in the anti-apartheid movement. Mandela consistently refused to compromise his political position to obtain his freedom.
South Africa's last apartheid-era president who also served as Mandela's vice president, F.W. de Klerk, released Mandela in February 1990 after 27 years in prison. Mandela was elected president of the African National Congress the following year, and in 1994, he was elected president of his country.
As South Africa's first black president -- he only ran for one term -- Mandela ushered in a democratic, multiracial society that is still going strong.
In a fitting tribute de Klerk described Mandela as "one of the greatest figures of the 20th century," AP reported.
Mandela's recent birthday tribute concert in London's Hyde Park marked the 20 year anniversary of the Free Mandela event that was held in the same city to demand his release from prison.
During the concert a frail Mandela told cheering fans, "Your voices carried across the water to inspire us in our prison cells far away. Tonight, we can stand before you free. Watch Mandela at the party »
"We are honored to be back in London for this wonderful occasion.
"But even as we celebrate, let us remind ourselves that our work is far from complete.
"Where there is poverty and sickness, including AIDS, where human beings are being oppressed, there is more work to be done. Our work is for freedom for all."
Proceeds from the London concert went toward the 46664 Campaign, which Mandela founded in 2003 to raise awareness about the impact of AIDS, especially in Africa, and to promote HIV-prevention measures around the world.
The name of the charity represents Mandela's prison number when he was incarcerated at Robben Island
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JLK
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I don't intend to offend but I must protest this PC version of Mandela's legacy. It seems to me that most of the world has been taught that Mandela was some sort of peaceful warrior who united and liberated the South African people. The reality is far darker than what most people want to accept. Nelson Mandela was a terrorist who frequently attacked, killed and tortured civilians both white and black, anyone who didn't agree with his ideology. See for yourself...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umkhonto_we_Sizwe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necklacing
On top of this, both violent crime and HIV have skyrocketed since the end of apartheid. But nobody wants to hear about that either... |
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