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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, you read the Daily Telegraph? I also have this habit of perusing it everyday - there aren't many interesting things to do on the Internet apart from this forum (of course!) and a handful of newspaper sites.

This observation from Yes, Minister might be outdated, but I'd include it nonetheless as it is not only funny, but also pretty truthful:

The Times is read by the people who run the country.
The Telegraph is read by people who used to run the country.
The Guardian is read by people who wish they ran the country.
The Financial Times is read by people who own the country.
The Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country.
The Express is read by people who wish the country was run the way it was fifty years ago.
The Independent is read by people who don't know who's running the country, but are sure that they are doing it wrong.
The Morning Star is read by people who wish Moscow ran the country.
The Sun is read by people who don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.
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PostPosted: Sat May 24, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh, you read the Daily Telegraph? I also have this habit of perusing it everyday - there aren't many interesting things to do on the Internet apart from this forum (of course!) and a handful of newspaper sites.

This observation from Yes, Minister might be outdated, but I'd include it nonetheless as it is not only funny, but also pretty truthful:

The Times is read by the people who run the country.
The Telegraph is read by people who used to run the country.
The Guardian is read by people who wish they ran the country.
The Financial Times is read by people who own the country.
The Mail is read by the wives of the people who run the country.
The Express is read by people who wish the country was run the way it was fifty years ago.
The Independent is read by people who don't know who's running the country, but are sure that they are doing it wrong.
The Morning Star is read by people who wish Moscow ran the country.
The Sun is read by people who don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.


A few years ago I read a similar thing about the readers of SA newspapers!

Yes, I like the Daily Telegraph, despite Ben's objections to it. I also frequent the websites of the Mirror, the Daily Mail, The Daily Express, and The Independent. Occasionaly also The Guardian.

I also buy the International Express, the UK Mail, and the Weekly Telegraph (the international editions of these newspapers), alternating between them, because they're bloody expensive!
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think The Guardian is also a very quality newspaper. Their editorial stance might have socialist leanings, but I only peruse The Guardian for their sport.

According to that observation, I should be on my way to owning a country as I read the Financial Times every weekday. No kidding!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've learnt that Obama is now *the* candidate for the democratic party : good news for US democracy. Oddly enough, his being perceived primarily as a non-white person is a good thing too : he is the embodiment of change, which is also the lexical catcher he used during the primary campaign (and will probably be using in the future too). I think it is wise that the motto fits the guy because what he's been offering so far (in terms of marketed speech) is appallingly hollow : somehow Obama's primary campaign reminds of Ségolène's victorious fight against the elephants (French socialist "leaders" or media "stars"). Obama can be very populist or soft-populist at times, just like Mme Royal was. He said something like only in the US "races" can actually mix, only ih the US mixité could mean success, and that sort of sweet (though deeply inaccurate) things.

Mais ne boudons pas notre plaisir. Knowing the (distant or recent) past of the US, Obama's nomination is very good news : he's got everything Bush lacks → he's young, educated, ambitious, determined, brave and successful.

Who do you think his vice-president could be ? Edwards ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now suddenly he and Hillary adore each other...   Could she be the vice presidential candidate? It would be an interesting combination, a black* man and a woman.

* BTW, in South Africa, Obama would be considered coloured, not black.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
Now suddenly he and Hillary adore each other...   Could she be the vice presidential candidate? It would be an interesting combination, a black* man and a woman.

* BTW, in South Africa, Obama would be considered coloured, not black.


 Is "coloured" not "black"? I thought "coloured" was a politically correct synonym of "black".
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
Now suddenly he and Hillary adore each other...   Could she be the vice presidential candidate? It would be an interesting combination, a black* man and a woman.

* BTW, in South Africa, Obama would be considered coloured, not black.


 Is "coloured" not "black"? I thought "coloured" was a politically correct synonym of "black".


In South Africa, "coloured" refers to people of mixed descent. Obama has a black father and white mother, so would be considered coloured here. Actually, it's a bit of a political issue here, some coloureds prefer to think of themselves as black, but most think of themselves as coloured. (In Afrikaans, kleurling or bruin mens [litt. brown person])
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
Now suddenly he and Hillary adore each other...  


I think they have always respected each other, but the love they're throwing out for each other now is all for the sake of party unity (and in Hillary's case, probably with a tinge of ambition-- there's the VP spot after all, and the next presidential election).

I think she delivered a wonderful concession speech, btw.  Where was this person during the campaign??

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Could she be the vice presidential candidate? It would be an interesting combination, a black* man and a woman.


I'd love to see that ticket.

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* BTW, in South Africa, Obama would be considered coloured, not black.


Oh, we could never use that word here.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
In South Africa, "coloured" refers to people of mixed descent. Obama has a black father and white mother, so would be considered coloured here.

Here métis for males and métisse for females refer to people of mixed descent too (knowing, though, that "mixed descent" means above all "mixed descend involving a skin-colour mix", whatever the original skin coulours of the "races" in question ).

With the aid of the -age suffix, we use métissage, which entails the blending of several traits. The word métissage may apply to physical persons (one skin colour that's mixed out of two others, like Obama), to a group of people like family, friends, housing communities, work staff (many skin coulours cohabiting collectively, which aren't necessarily mixed within each and every individual), to music composition (mixed influences) and, last and least, to government management (skin colour is then a marketing tool to "promote modernity" even if the best reason for métissage politique would be promote peoples' ideas, not skin colours).
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Times is read by the people who run the country.

Since when has Gordon Brown been reading The Times?

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The Telegraph is read by people who used to run the country.

When?  

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The Guardian is read by people who wish they ran the country.

Oh...I didn't know I was an aspiring PM...until now!

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The Financial Times is read by people who own the country.

The Pink Mafia rules...

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The Independent is read by people who don't know who's running the country, but are sure that they are doing it wrong.




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The Sun is read by people who don't care who runs the country, as long as she's got big tits.

At Katie whatever Price...

Thanks for posting this...these statements are funny.  

Loic and André, why The Telegraph, why?

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
I also frequent the websites of the Mirror, the Daily Mail, The Daily Express, and The Independent.

Me, too. I rarely admit to it in an educated company, though...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz wrote:
Loic and André, why The Telegraph, why?

André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
I also frequent the websites of the Mirror, the Daily Mail, The Daily Express, and The Independent.

Me, too. I rarely admit to it in an educated company, though...


Now, Liz, every good Tory reads the Telegraph.... er, I mean, it's a good newspaper...

Oh, I sometimes admit to reading the Independent in educated company.... And after a few glasses of good wine, I even admit to sometimes reading the Express.... But NEVER, except to you guys, will I admit to reading the Mirror.... and not even to you will I ever admit to reading THE SUN..... (Neither will the Queen of the English people, apparentlly)



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