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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And where does chocolate fit in?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I've tried stuff like Jack Daniel's and it's just revolting.

True! Ban it!
Unless you are a poor Frisian fisherman who really needs a wee dram to survive in the icy sea spray, there is no need for liquor!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boy Fred, you sure seem to have a love affair with the Frisians.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, he met this tipsy Frisian housewife once....

Jack Daniel's isn't my cup of tea, either, but bring on the Bailey's.... mmmm! And Kahlua. Some amaretto sours. A B-52. Mudslides. Slippery Nipples. Tequila Sunrise. Margaritas! Pretty much anything icky-sweet, and I'll just love it!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deborah wrote:
And where does chocolate fit in?


hehe chocolate, well I don't really know! Probably psychologically addictive.

I'm addicted to it anyways
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Porthos wrote:
Boy Fred, you sure seem to have a love affair with the Frisians.


Yes, ever since I warmed myself with a first cup of the Frisian cocktail "tote Tante" (= dead aunt), tea with rum, on the windy North Frisian island of Sylt (Frisian: Söl) I've been a Frisophile. But the love almost turned into hate when I was writing my bachelor thesis in Freiburg one year ago about (the considerable) Frisian maritime commerce in Northern Europe in the early Middle Ages and had to read a whole book in Frisian! The book was also available in a French edition, but I understood more of the Frisian one. And that tells more about my lack of command of French than my grasp of Frisian!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried hashish once a few years ago. We were about five people who shared one joint. At first I didn't feel anything and I was a bit disappointed, but later as I walked home I felt something and it felt pretty good. I felt light. Sometimes I can get this feeling that I've been missing out on something because I didn't try it again. Some of my friends have tried other drugs and I know a couple of people who still smoke a joint (or rather share one) occasionally.

But I don't think I will smoke hashish again, or try any other drugs for that matter. My reason for that is the same as Julian's, namely fear of getting addicted to them.

I used to smoke tobacco at parties but I rarely do that anymore. I'm still addicted to nicotine, though. I take snuff and I wish I could quit. And I mean addicted; there have been occasions when I haven't had any snuff for a while and it's absolutely dreadful. There was such an occasion a couple of weeks ago at work (in this case "a while" means that I'd only taken one piece of snuff that morning), when meek little me was this close to raising my voice at a lady who certainly didn't deserve to be yelled at.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently, I've started to worry that I'm on the way to becoming an alcoholic, and some of my friends have pointed this out to me. Actually, my main concern is that once I'm 18 next month, I'll be able to acquire alcohol much more easily, and that when I move to Scotland far away from my parents in September, I may go off the rails. I'm thinking of how I was when I was in Poland earlier this month, when I kept wanting (and thus drinking) vodka, and got drunk on more than one occasion.

Essentially, whenever I'm sad or stressed, I usually want alcohol, which for me preferably takes the form of spirits, rather than wine or beer (partly because the desired effects are faster that way). I should admit that I have secretly drunk brandy at night on a number of occasions.

Having said all that, I'm fairly certain that I still consume less alcohol than most people my age in this country overall. So folks, do you think that I actually have anything to worry about, or is it just normal?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I think that if you follow the rules of never drinking alone and staying away from spirits, you'll manage fine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fredrik wrote:
Hmm, I think that if you follow the rules of never drinking alone and staying away from spirits, you'll manage fine.

I don't drink alone very often, so that should be okay.

But the thing is, I really like spirits. I don't want to drink beer, and once I'm in Scotland, spirits (especially whisky) will be the main obvious alternative. I couldn't realistically go into pubs in Scotland and drink red wine.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamin wrote:
Recently, I've started to worry that I'm on the way to becoming an alcoholic, and some of my friends have pointed this out to me. Actually, my main concern is that once I'm 18 next month, I'll be able to acquire alcohol much more easily, and that when I move to Scotland far away from my parents in September, I may go off the rails. I'm thinking of how I was when I was in Poland earlier this month, when I kept wanting (and thus drinking) vodka, and got drunk on more than one occasion.


Yes, freedom can be dangerous. I know. When I moved from home to Uppsala to live on my own my beer consumption increased and reached heights that were probably not very sound.

Benjamin wrote:
Essentially, whenever I'm sad or stressed, I usually want alcohol, which for me preferably takes the form of spirits, rather than wine or beer (partly because the desired effects are faster that way). I should admit that I have secretly drunk brandy at night on a number of occasions.


It's the same for me except it's usually beer that I drink. It's an effective way to alter your state of mind, whether it be that you're sad, stressed, angry, frustrated or just bored out of your skull.

Benjamin wrote:
Having said all that, I'm fairly certain that I still consume less alcohol than most people my age in this country overall. So folks, do you think that I actually have anything to worry about, or is it just normal?


If you drink to repress your feelings then I think you should think twice before having that drink at night. It's easy to "just" have another drink and then another. Your need will grow and your consumption will increase - if you go on drinking to quell yourself, which really is what you're doing. It feels good to walk through the gates and wander in that land of relief but what you don't realize, or don't want to realize, is that that land is a land of quicksand. Or if you do realize it, well then you've got a good recipe for a depression, which leads to what?
I don't mean to scare you, though. Do drink and be merry - with your friends. But don't drink alone.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then how about if you try to learn to like beer? In my experience, spirits often gets you too drunk. And it happens so fast. You lose control. So I usually stay away from spirits and stick to wine and beer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually it's just a phase, and by the time you reach the age where you can acquire it legally (21 in the US) it loses a lot of its appeal. I would watch the link between drinking and feeling depressed, though -- alcohol usually just intensifies whatever you are already feeling, after the initial happy buzz.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamin, have you tried not drinking for a set period, say, a week or a month? It seems to me that if you find it difficult to do, then you might have a problem. I've gone through periods when I drank frequently because of who I was keeping company with, but when my lifestyle changed, it was never even the least bit difficult to stop drinking.

And heed what Uriel said about drinking and depression.

My only "addictions" have been to sugar and chocolate. When I lived near an Italian pastry shop in NY, it got to the point where I actually had to cross the street when I approached the shop; otherwise I'd find myself drawn into it against my will! And recently I've been consuming far too much chocolate -- and I go for it when I'm depressed.

(I'd like to put in a plug here for my current favorite chocolate: "Endangered Species" brand, which buys fair trade cocoa and donates a percentage of the profits toward conservation. And it's delicious! I especially like the Grizzly Bear, which is dark chocolate and raspberries.)
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had the Panda, which I think was white chocolate and dark chocolate.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deborah wrote:
My only "addictions" have been to sugar and chocolate. When I lived near an Italian pastry shop in NY, it got to the point where I actually had to cross the street when I approached the shop; otherwise I'd find myself drawn into it against my will!

Was it Alba on 18th? If it was I can relate When my cousin first moved there (about a block away), I must have gained about 10 lbs. I made up all sorts of dumb excuses to visit her, especially during my time of the month! Damn it, now I want some cheesecake....
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Was it Alba on 18th? If it was I can relate When my cousin first moved there (about a block away), I must have gained about 10 lbs. I made up all sorts of dumb excuses to visit her, especially during my time of the month! Damn it, now I want some cheesecake....

No, it was on Spring St. between Lafayette and Mulberry, south side of the street. It was a little one, and I don't think I ever even knew the name -- it was just "the Italian pastry shop down the street". My favorite Italian bakery was Veniero, at 11th & 2nd (1st?) Avenue. They had the best Italian cheesecake. I don't know whether this shop is even there anymore. Ferrara's is still around, though -- I saw a news segment about it last night. It's now in the hands of the 5th generation of the same family.

And yes, the Panda is the dark & white chocolate bar from Endangered Species. Right now I'm enjoying the Bat, which is "chocolat noir intense ave graines de cacao".
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mmmm.... Veniero...
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I think it's Lindt that makes this absolutely divine white chocolate and coconut bar ... you can just feel the cocoa butter melting in your mouth and heading straight for your adipose tissue!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uriel wrote:
I think it's Lindt that makes this absolutely divine white chocolate and coconut bar ... you can just feel the cocoa butter melting in your mouth and heading straight for your adipose tissue!

Girl, anything that tastes that good and makes your t&a bigger and keeps you warm during the winter must be food from the gods...



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