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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes, Hungary is one of them countries where 1, nothing works 2, everything is corrupt and 3, you can't go out at night! And yes, it's pink and don't you forget it, ever!! And we don't care about it... at all!!!


You are lucky enough to escape my seething rage and get away with it easily as I don't have enough knowledge and information about Sweden...So I'm unable to disparage it properly.


So you're unable to disparage Sweden? You might very well have all the knowledge and information there is about Sweden then.

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Let's see...


Let's, indeed...

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1. Nothing works? No, everything works perfectly... until it goes wrong. In other words, everything goes pear shaped, especially women on the wrong side of 30...40...? Men in general find them sexier than the all-round fat women, though.


You know what you have coming then!

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2. Everything is corrupt? Well, not really...only politicians are, but THEY JUST DON'T COUNT.


I reckon they don't since they're merely puppets controlled by people higher up, men with backslick, leather jackets and shiny cars.

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3. You CAN go out at night...just bear the consequences...or avoid visiting certain establishments in the outskirts of Budapest. Other places are quite safe...unless you are Swedish. But if you're a good runner, you'll have no problems and probably get out alive...


Well, I'm working on it. That is, I'm working on starting working on it.

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4. The colour pink as a symbol for innocence seems to be incompatible with the presumed dreadful qualities of our fair land.


In these modern times, with the EU and everything, we have to make our "friends" look good. It's about appearances.

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5. If you don't care about it why do you Swedes bother to place it on the map and give a succint, nevertheless, rather misleading discreption of it?


We bother because we're Swedes; we go by the book which involves leaving nothing out, even if it's pink. And like I said, it's about appearances, being attractive. How else would you attract unwitting touri... keep your economy going?

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The map is hilarious anyway... At least I had a good laugh and managed to prove the misconception wrong that Hungarians are pessimistic!


Living in exile, are you?

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5. If you don't care about it why do you Swedes bother to place it on the map and give a succint, nevertheless, rather misleading discreption of it?


Whaaat? Discreption???? Did I think of discrepancies at the same time?

Well, you can add "and they speak pidgin" to the list of our "positive" features.


Hehe, it only gets better and better...

Hey, Liz! Check this out:
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Liz wrote:
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Yes, Hungary is one of them countries where 1, nothing works 2, everything is corrupt and 3, you can't go out at night! And yes, it's pink and don't you forget it, ever!! And we don't care about it... at all!!!


You are lucky enough to escape my seething rage and get away with it easily as I don't have enough knowledge and information about Sweden...So I'm unable to disparage it properly.


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So you're unable to disparage Sweden? You might very well have all the knowledge and information there is about Sweden then.


Now I know something about the Swedes...you are modesty personified!


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Let's, indeed...

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1. Nothing works? No, everything works perfectly... until it goes wrong. In other words, everything goes pear shaped, especially women on the wrong side of 30...40...? Men in general find them sexier than the all-round fat women, though.


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You know what you have coming then!


You know, as usual, present company is excepted, including myself.

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2. Everything is corrupt? Well, not really...only politicians are, but THEY JUST DON'T COUNT.


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I reckon they don't since they're merely puppets controlled by people higher up, men with backslick, leather jackets and shiny cars.


Oh no...they are puppets controlled by no-one...They are just out of control. (Mind you, I'm always game for bashing polticians, particularly those who are emulating Tony Blair...just like our PM. )
Paardon??? Men with backslicks, leather jackets and shiny cars??? Is it mere coincidence that this description (What the hell? I got the spelling right!) bears uncanny resemblance to secret agents (AVH) of the Rakosi-era? They are only history now, but you can find one of those cars in the House of Terror, where the spirit of those mysterious and cruel "men in black" still lingers in the atmosphere.

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3. You CAN go out at night...just bear the consequences...or avoid visiting certain establishments in the outskirts of Budapest. Other places are quite safe...unless you are Swedish. But if you're a good runner, you'll have no problems and probably get out alive...


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Well, I'm working on it. That is, I'm working on starting working on it.


You seem to have got mixed up in "working".
I reckon you are hard-working enough to work out which gym is the most suitable for you to work out in. Then you can work up your physical condition and you might as well manage to work up to a professional runner or a body-builder, a boxer or all three of them. I hope it works for you and with the help of this you can avoid getting worked over. But all this comes *only* after work.

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4. The colour pink as a symbol for innocence seems to be incompatible with the presumed dreadful qualities of our fair land.


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In these modern times, with the EU and everything, we have to make our "friends" look good. It's about appearances.


That was my impression, too. I was just waiting to be proven right.

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5. If you don't care about it why do you Swedes bother to place it on the map and give a succint, nevertheless, rather misleading discreption of it?


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We bother because we're Swedes; we go by the book which involves leaving nothing out, even if it's pink. And like I said, it's about appearances, being attractive. How else would you attract unwitting touri... keep your economy going?


I learn loads of things about Swedes in general...now I know that *they bother*. They are *definitely* NOT like Tony Blair in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=sluVp4oknJw

Do you judge a country by the colour? Interesting...I've always thought tourists don't give a toss either way...However, I do. I would most probably avoid a pink country.
But who knows anyway? Pink might stand for flourishing economy and a tourist trap...It might be a reason why Pink gave a concert in Hungary last year.

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The map is hilarious anyway... At least I had a good laugh and managed to prove the misconception wrong that Hungarians are pessimistic!


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Living in exile, are you?


Sort of...I am. However, in my opinion "exile" is too harsh a word to describe my voluntary part-time study full of fun and hard work at the same time. If I wanted to sound very serious, I could say I left the country for political reasons and use the "e-word" (emigration - for those who don't know what it stands for) but it would seem slightly odd in a pseudo-democratic wild capitalist state where I can say things like that without the risk of ending up in jail. Hopefully...

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Hey, Liz! Check this out:


Thanks, but I think this one is better:
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, we're more like Loren?
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So basically, we're more like Loren?


No, you aren't. She "ain't bovvered", either.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So basically, we're more like Loren?


No, you aren't. She "ain't bovvered", either.


No, but she bothers people. I think Tony was bothered even though he said he wasn't. So you've been to the House of Terror, I take it? As a spectator, I mean.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walker wrote:
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So basically, we're more like Loren?


No, you aren't. She "ain't bovvered", either.


No, but she bothers people. I think Tony was bothered even though he said he wasn't. So you've been to the House of Terror, I take it? As a spectator, I mean.


Yes, she does but Tony's just mocking her. "Am I bovvered? I ain't bovvered." is one of Lauren's catchphrases. It was just a sketch from the Katherine Tate Show, and Tony was asked to play a role and he did a very good job.

I admitted somewhere that I've never been there. Probably it was another thread. It's a shame because it is almost mandatory for every Hungarian to visit the House of Terrors at least once in a lifetime. It's not the most pleasant place to be but one must learn from mistakes of the past. So, I want to visit it.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz wrote:
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Liz wrote:
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So basically, we're more like Loren?


No, you aren't. She "ain't bovvered", either.


No, but she bothers people. I think Tony was bothered even though he said he wasn't. So you've been to the House of Terror, I take it? As a spectator, I mean.


Yes, she does but Tony's just mocking her. "Am I bovvered? I ain't bovvered." is one of Lauren's catchphrases. It was just a sketch from the Katherine Tate Show, and Tony was asked to play a role and he did a very good job.


That's right. I've seen her on TV in what I suspect was the Katherine Tate Show. There was a series of sketches.

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I admitted somewhere that I've never been there. Probably it was another thread. It's a shame because it is almost mandatory for every Hungarian to visit the House of Terrors at least once in a lifetime. It's not the most pleasant place to be but one must learn from mistakes of the past. So, I want to visit it.


I see!
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That's right. I've seen her on TV in what I suspect was the Katherine Tate Show. There was a series of sketches.


Do you have "Katherine Tate Show" on Swedish TV?
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liz wrote:
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That's right. I've seen her on TV in what I suspect was the Katherine Tate Show. There was a series of sketches.


Do you have "Katherine Tate Show" on Swedish TV?


Yes, we do. A celebrated British humor icon on Channel 5, says the headline. We too get some British TV programs, or should I say programmes.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something for the (NA/US-centric) cartophiles, more alternate reality maps--

The US according to Texans:


The Nine Nations of North America:


"Balkanized" North America (i.e. if the historical regional separatists had their way):


"Ex Unum Pluribus" Map:


US States Renamed for Countries with Similar GDPs:


Inverted World
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny maps, Elaine. Especially the one with national GDPs. The Californian GDP was a surprise so I checked the figures. The Californian GDP was lately estimated to be 1.727 billion $ in 2006, that is 1.190 billion €, a bit lower than 1.230 bn €, which stand for Italian GDP, while France's output was 1792 bn € in 2006.

In short, Californian & French GDP are roughly the same when the former is totalled in dollars and the latter in euros.


Figures in $
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Funny maps, Elaine. Especially the one with national GDPs. The Californian GDP was a surprise so I checked the figures. The Californian GDP was lately estimated to be 1.727 billion $ in 2006, that is 1.190 billion €, a bit lower than 1.230 bn €, which stand for Italian GDP, while France's output was 1792 bn € in 2006.

In short, Californian & French GDP are roughly the same when the former is totalled in dollars and the latter in euros.


I wonder if perhaps it was an old map.  Anyway, here are some more peculiar maps (large files):

A very strange map of Europe (it must've been made by a Belgian):

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And here's something called "The Tory Atlas of the World", which from the looks of it must've been created back in the Thatcher '80s.  Warning: it's very politically incorrect.  The map key is funny though.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love those maps. Hallu totale !  
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

greg in noord-frankrijk wrote:
Funny maps, Elaine. Especially the one with national GDPs. The Californian GDP was a surprise so I checked the figures. The Californian GDP was lately estimated to be 1.727 billion $ in 2006, that is 1.190 billion €, a bit lower than 1.230 bn €, which stand for Italian GDP, while France's output was 1792 bn € in 2006.


I checked around a bit and apparently others like you questioned the accuracy of that map.  One even went so far as to revise it:



And as you can see, California is now comparable to Italy (and Canada).  Surprising how some states are comparable to developing world countries, but maybe that's because so few people live there.


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