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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What's so fascinating about having a wife and a mistress? Happens all the time.


What if your wife and your mistress are also sisters?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've read both the bible (old and new testament) and the koran, nice stories! But that's all I think when reading them... nice stories.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uriel wrote:
What's so fascinating about having a wife and a mistress? Happens all the time.


True! The funny thing is when a country makes it an inofficial national ideology, like France has. How do you French guys out there feel about belonging to a culture that might be said to celebrate infidelity more than fidelity? I think it's very strange, fascinating and original, considering that almost all national cultures celebrate marital fidelity as the foundation of the family and thus the nation.

But. by the way, I can't remember much British glorification of the family either. In Europe it's perhaps just a Central European thing, running from Scandinavia's nuclear Ikea families through Germany's Biedermeier domestic Gemütlichkeit to Italy's mammas and pappas?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loic wrote:
Uriel wrote:
What's so fascinating about having a wife and a mistress? Happens all the time.


What if your wife and your mistress are also sisters?

That's probably not all that uncommon, but probably not as common as the wife and mistress being best friends.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you weren't speaking from personal experience, Deborah!

However, I can envision such a scenario happening when the wife and the mistress realised that their common lover was actually two-timing them. They then decide to pool their resources together to exact revenge.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah -- it was a movie with Sharon Stone and Isabelle Adjani called Diabolique.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a movie called Diabolique with Simone Signoret and Véra Clouzot (1955).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one was a remake of the other.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know. The first one was the cause of my mother's fear of going to the bathroom alone at night, for quite a while -- my stepfather would complain about being awaken to be her bodyguard. When I finally saw the movie for the first time, sometime in the '80s, I couldn't understand how it could have terrified her.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gosh, I don't remember much about the movie. What happened in the bathroom?

(I was a little nervous about going to the bathroom at night while I was reading Stephen King's IT, I'll admit!)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uriel wrote:
Gosh, I don't remember much about the movie. What happened in the bathroom?


SPOILER ALERT!!

The wife and mistress conspire to murder the husband, drowning him in the bathtub. Then they dump his body into a swimming pool (off-season, so it's covered with leaves or algae). After mysterious things happen that seem to indicate he's not really dead, the paranoid wife has the swimming pool drained, only to find that the body is no longer there. The hugely scary scene (supposedly) is when she's in the bathroom and his "body" rises up out of it. Since she's terrified and already has a weak heart, she dies.

Maybe I didn't find the scary scene scary because my mother had already told me what happens in it, and I was watching it on TV, not in a dark theater.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, that jogs my memory -- I think the same happens in the remake (with Chazz Palmintieri doing the honors, I think, and Isabelle Adjani being the victim.)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm I wasnt raised with religion so I dont identify with any...I just know that my family is Muslim
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hmm I wasnt raised with religion so I dont identify with any...I just know that my family is Muslim


So are you culturally Muslim despite otherwise being an aethiest?

By the way, welcome to the forum!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, Alba!

I used to work for someone who was, as he described himself, a Jewish agnostic married to a Catholic atheist. And he was American and his wife was French. They had their first major disagreement after their child was born, trying to decide how to celebrate the winter holidays. He would have been happy just celebrating Hanukkah, but he thought celebrating Christmas would be alright as long as they concentrated on the spiritual aspect of the holiday and left out the presents. Celebrating Hanukkah was OK with her, but since she wasn't religious, having Christmas without the festivities would have been pretty meaningless for her. I left the firm at that point, so I never found out how they resolved the situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Alba"]hmm I wasnt raised with religion so I dont identify with any...I just know that my family is Muslim[/quote]

thanks, yea Im culturally Muslim lol, whatever that means
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uriel wrote:
Yeah -- it was a movie with Sharon Stone and Isabelle Adjani called Diabolique.

Deborah wrote:
And a movie called Diabolique with Simone Signoret and Véra Clouzot (1955).

Uriel wrote:
The one was a remake of the other.


Yep. But the original movie was called Les diaboliques.



Fom a novel called Cellle qui n'était plus by Boileau-Narcejac (a pair of authors actually).
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And I'm an Orthodox Christian, though I'm not religeous, I mean that I don't practice, for example now I shouldn't eat meat and some other things, but I do eat, but many people here use it to loose their weight, well, thank God I don't neet it yet
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And I'm an Orthodox Christian, though I'm not religeous, I mean that I don't practice, for example now I shouldn't eat meat and some other things, but I do eat, but many people here use it to loose their weight, well, thank God I don't neet it yet


Ok, what does auf der Reise mean? I thought you were from Germany!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's IN German -- it means "on the journey".

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http://babelfish.altavista.com/



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