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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Job Hunting - an update Reply with quote

Okay, so as many of you know I've been job hunting recently. I don't have a car, and I'm wearing a suit and tie, so I can't ride a bike either. I've been walking all over town, a few miles a day looking for work, and going to interviews.

I have had an interview at Albertsons, at Blenders (a smoothie and health food chain), and at an upscale restauraunt. I have an interview at a stock brokerage coming up in a couple of weeks, and an interview at a law firm, and I have several other prospects.

I would prefer working in an office job, where I can gain valuable experience in areas related to what I plan on eventually doing once I'm finished with school. Answering phones, filing, and data entry looks a hell of a lot better on a resume than a job at a fast food chain. Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming, and I have recieved many compliments on my professionalism and how I conduct myself.

I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point.

At Albertsons, you are a union employee. And besides their benefit package, they also provide scholarships to students in a lot of cases, sometimes in the amount of a few thousand dollars for tuition. And that sounds sweet to my ears.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Job Hunting - an update Reply with quote

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I would prefer working in an office job, where I can gain valuable experience in areas related to what I plan on eventually doing once I'm finished with school. Answering phones, filing, and data entry looks a hell of a lot better on a resume than a job at a fast food chain. Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming, and I have recieved many compliments on my professionalism and how I conduct myself.

I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point.

At Albertsons, you are a union employee. And besides their benefit package, they also provide scholarships to students in a lot of cases, sometimes in the amount of a few thousand dollars for tuition. And that sounds sweet to my ears.


Sounds sensible! Good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merci Andre!
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It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here.

I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?

At what average age do most American live parent's home ?

Here it is not surprising to have young people of 25-30, sometimes more, still living with their parents.
I should recognise I left parent's home only Three years ago, when I worked for the first time after I had finished my studies, at 26.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Re: Job Hunting - an update Reply with quote

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I don't have a car, and I'm wearing a suit and tie, so I can't ride a bike either.

Why can't you cycle? David Cameron, the leader of the Conservative Party here, often cycles to work through London, and he wears a suit. It's all part of his environmentalist campaign.

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Needless to say, many people are impressed with my dress and grooming,

Ever considered being a model?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I graduated from high school, before I foolishly agreed to attend college (pretty much at my own expense) so that my mother could keep collecting social security and veteran's benefits to help make payments on her house, I was prepared to leave home. I'd found a place to stay in return for housecleaning & such and I was ready to get a part-time job so I'd still have time for my ballet classes. In my day, parents did seem to expect you'd leave home pretty early. (My mother didn't, but I wanted to get away ASAP.)
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After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18.
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Pauline wrote:
After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18.

I'm leaving home (and hopefully the country... well sort of) after the summer as well — I'm really looking forward to it!
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Pauline wrote:
After the summer my sister (the oldest one, I've 2 sisters) will leave home, she's 18 and will go to the university for study law. It's not possible go there and live at home because we live in the countryside. I want to do the same thing when I will be 18.

I'm leaving home (and hopefully the country... well sort of) after the summer as well — I'm really looking forward to it!


You will study french and german? So to Scotland for an english is to leave the country? Then for us, it would be to leave the country when we go to Flanders LOL!!

I will miss my sister because she's very bossy and nosy but nice as well (mostly). My other sister isn't nice. It will become quiet in my house, but I won't be at home so probaly it don't make such a differnce (for me)

Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland?
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You will study french and german?

Yes, probably with theology as well for the first two years.

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So to Scotland for an english is to leave the country?

Sort of, yes, because Scotland is considered to be a country/nation without full sovereignty. I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there.

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Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland?

Yes, probably about three times a year. They might occasionally come and visit me as well. I actually think that it would be better for our relationship like that.
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I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there.

what must you do to be scottish? Can the scottish people know that you're english?

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Will you visit your parents after you will live in scotland?

Yes, probably about three times a year. They might occasionally come and visit me as well. I actually think that it would be better for our relationship like that.

Where will you live- in the university? Will you get homesickness?
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I also intend to become (i.e. consider myself) Scottish when I'm there.

what must you do to be scottish? Can the scottish people know that you're english?

At least as far as the government is concerned, to become Scottish, I would have to state my primary residence as being in Scotland, by signing onto the electoral roll there. Although admittedly, many people originally from Scotland would probably not view me as Scottish, because I hadn't been brought up there, and because I'd probably still speak like an English person. But then again, very very posh Scottish people speak like 'posh' English people anyway — but maybe I could attempt to adopt a Scottish accent.

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Where will you live- in the university?

I'll probably live in a university-owned apartment for the first year, and then I'll probably have to rent my own apartment nearby for the other years.

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Will you get homesickness?

I hope not. But to be honest, I don't feel much emotional attachment to Birmingham anyway. And ultimately, I'll have to leave home one day — and probably the sooner the better.
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Will you visit the forum when you will be at university? Probably after next spetember (or before for exemple june, I don't exactly know) then I will visit only during the weekends but I think that it's okay. Then there will be *very* much reading!!

Shouga, I can't rememebr, will you go to the university also after the summer?
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I also heard that usually, as soon the majority is obtained, a lot of Americans leave quite rapidly their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?

At what average age do most American live parent's home ?


I left home at 18 (legal majority), but didn't actually start working until very late (by our standards) -- 22. (When my parents both mentioned, separately, that I was damn expensive and I needed to start pulling my weight, as I wasn't a kid anymore.) But the law allows you to work part-time (20 hours a week) at 16 (younger for farm work), and to drop out of school at that age too, if you so desire.

I went to school in California. My father (who was my custodial parent) lived in Japan at the time, and my mother lived in Georgia -- so I was at least 3000 miles from either parent. I have never returned to live with either one.

I also didn't get a driver's license until 22 -- also very late, by American standards (but I had extenuating circumstances! honest!). Most states allow driving by the age of 16 -- usually with some restrictions.

More and more children are staying home longer and longer, or leaving an returning when their job searches or marriages don't pan out, but I think the norm is still to aim for leaving home at 18. For whites anyway. Hispanics tend to cling to the homestead longer, and I think blacks often have to start working earlier and more seriously at a younger age, especially if they are poorer. (Middle and upper class blacks probably conform to the white norm, although I think their family structure is often closer -- more like hispanics'.) I don't know what the norm is for Asian-Americans -- if there is one.
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Pauline wrote:
Will you visit the forum when you will be at university? Probably after next spetember (or before for exemple june, I don't exactly know) then I will visit only during the weekends but I think that it's okay. Then there will be *very* much reading!!

Shouga, I can't rememebr, will you go to the university also after the summer?


No, I'm too young for university. But I will be starting my A Levels or the International Baccalaureate, possibly at a new college.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Job Hunting - an update Reply with quote

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I got an offer at Albertsons, and I think I'll take it for now, while keeping all options on the table at this point.


Congratulations. Lotsa luck to ya!

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It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here.


I didn't start working until I was done with high school, but many of my friends and HS classmates started working at 16 or 17. I think most high schools have a program where students can work for work experience credit.

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I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?


I didn't leave home until after I graduated from university (24 yrs old), and when I finally moved out everyone said "It's about time! Your parents should've kicked you out of the house at 18!" I think in most Anglo-American households you're expected to be out of the house and on your own at 18 years old.

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Hispanics tend to cling to the homestead longer ... I don't know what the norm is for Asian-Americans -- if there is one.


Asian-Americans, like Hispanics, are more family-oriented and tend to stay home until marriage. Sometimes they get married and they still stay home with mom and dad, making the single-family home a multi-family one. That's when the garage gets converted into living space.


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We have two next-door neighbours. On the one side, there's a man who's about 25 and still lives with his parents, although he did go to university near London for about three years. And on the other side, there's a man who's about 55 and still lives with his parents — and I've seen his 85-year-old mother washing his hair in the kitchen sink. I just don't want to end up like that, which is why I'm vowing not to return to live indefinitely with my parents after I've left for university in the autumn.
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fab wrote:
It seems that in the US most people start to work quite early, in parrallel with studies. It is I think less spread in Europe, at least here.

I also heard that usually, as sonn the majority is obtained, a lot of American leave quite rapidely their home to start studies in farther universities, and earning their own money. Is this true ?

At what average age do most American live parent's home ?

Here it is not surprising to have young people of 25-30, sometimes more, still living with their parents.
I should recognize I left parent's home only Three years ago, when I worked for the first time after I had finished my studies, at 26.


Most Americans leave for college at age 18, or go into the workforce. 26 years old and still living with your parents is not that odd, considering that many people may be struggling with their first tastes of life on their own, but it is certainly not the norm.
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Update time!

I've recieved additonal interview offers. My latest offer was at an insurance company. And I've also learned that I'm going to be hired on my 18th birthday at Wells Fargo bank. The pay will be good and they'll pay for college. Apparently, all the bankers love me there. They're all so impressed.
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Well, that's good news!

Now, make sure you live up to their expectations -- a free ride like that doesn't come along every day.



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