UFS horror race video surfaces
26/02/2008 23:26 - (SA)
Henry Cloete and Sapa
Bloemfontein - A racism bombshell hit the University of the Free State (UFS) on Tuesday when a video was distributed showing five black cleaners at a traditionally white men's residence on the campus being "initiated".
Amid loud laughter, they are shown taking part in races, downing beers and drinking a mixture in which a student had secretly urinated.
Hundreds of furious black students gathered on the lawn next to the campus library on Tuesday afternoon, demanding an explanation and singing protest songs.
Student leaders managed to persuade them to delay a protest march until Wednesday morning.
Screaming students condemned the scenes on the video and waved placards with messages such as "Enough is enough".
Speaking to Volksblad at the spontaneous campus protest, a student said: "We're furious. The problems at the campus have now escalated, and become a full-blown human-rights issue."
The video was apparently recorded by students at the Reitz men's residence last September.
Given mixture to drink
The narration on the video begins: "Once upon a time the 'boere' lived peacefully here on Reitz Island, until one day when the less-advantaged discovered the word 'integration' in the dictionary."
The cleaners take part in a "boat race" (a beer-downing competition), a dance, a sprint race, a mock rugby practice and finally, they're given a mixture to drink.
The video shows garlic being put into a dish full of what looks like dog food.
"We know they're less privileged so we're adding a bit of meat," says the narrator.
Another student puts the bowl on the toilet and urinates into the mixture.
The brew is then distributed in plastic glasses to the cleaners.
All five of them spit out the first mouthful, but try to finish it amid loud encouragement from the students.
The video ends with the words: "That, at the end of the day, is what we think of integration."
This is followed by one of the students asking a cleaner: "What does 'sefebe' mean in Afrikaans?"
"A black whore," she replies.
Integration policy
The Rector, Professor Frederick Fourie, said at a media conference on Tuesday evening that the cleaners were traumatised when they saw how their trust had been abused by the students at the residence.
"The humiliation stems from the way in which the video is presented."
He said the video clearly referred to the integration policy which was being implemented from this year by the university.
In short, the policy lays down what percentages of black and white students will be allocated to the residences.
Up to the end of last year, whites and blacks lived in separate residences.
Fourie said: "There's an ugly crust on this issue. The video's a direct indication of that."
Four students can be clearly identified on the video. Two of them still live in Reitz residence and the university management has barred them from the campus. The other two have completed their studies.
Fourie said: "We will act swiftly and efficiently against the students concerned, and begin a more-comprehensive inquiry into the affair. We're also considering filing criminal charges."
He said it had been a highly emotional day on the campus, during which student representatives, members of the house committee and university staff had roundly condemned the content of the video.
Planning protest march
Helen Zille, national leader of the Democratic Alliance strongly condemned "the disgusting abuse" of the cleaners, by the students who made the video.
Meanwhile, the Freedom Front Plus, too, has condemned the video.
Youth leader Cornelius Jansen van Rensburg distanced the organisation from the "atrocities screened on a video reportedly produced at the institution".
"The FF Plus Youth will never condone, nor justify, the violation of the human dignity of any person.
"If the video footage is real and the description thereof in media reports, correct, the event speaks of inhumane conduct which should not be left unpunished," said Van Rensburg.
The cleaners' union, Nehawu, intended joining several black or mainly black groups who were planning a protest march at the campus on Wednesday morning.
They'll be handing over a memo listing their grievances and suggestions to the UFS management. - Beeld / Sapa
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'It's war!'
27/02/2008 23:02 - (SA)
Henry Cloete
Bloemfontein - A line has been drawn in the sand between black and white students on the campus of the University of the Free State (UFS).
That's the shared sentiment of various black students who took part in a protest march by several hundred students and members of Nehawu on the university campus.
The protest followed the shocking video, produced by white male students at Reitz hostel, that showed five cleaners being "initiated" into the hostel.
The video shows the cleaners drinking a brew in which the students appear to have urinated.
At the end of the video the words "That's what we really think of integration" appear on the screen.
Ntombenhle Buthelezi, one of the students in the protest march, said: "This is just the tip of the iceberg. Racial tension at this campus has been going on for far too long.
"I won't study at the same university as those two."
Another student in the march, who preferred not to be named, said the video was one of the most humiliating things he had ever seen.
"This is war between the blacks and the whites. Since I started studying here, I've always been afraid, and felt that there was oppression."
The march ended at the main building, where Free State Premier Beatrice Marshoff addressed the crowd and expressed her disgust at the contents of the video.
"It is unacceptable! If the university won't act, the government will!"
A letter of protest was handed to Free State MEC for education Casca Mokitlane, and the Rector of UFS, Professor Frederick Fourie.
Fourie emphasised that he shared the indignation of the students about the contents of the video.
Protesters threw stones
The cleaners who appeared in the video were at the front of the protest march. They did not want to speak to Volksblad.
A Nehawu spokesperson said the cleaners were still "too traumatised".
Wednesday morning's march was just the beginning.
Pandemonium broke out shortly afterwards and the police unrest unit had their hands full when the students split into small groups and swept across campus, trying to whip up others.
A large group gathered at the Reitz hostel, protesting and throwing stones, and five of the group were arrested.
Stun grenades were used to disperse protesting students there and elsewhere on campus.
UFS spokesperson Lacea Loader said classes had been suspended for the day, quite early on.
Shouting students ran into several lecture halls and tried to whip up support.
White students were few and far between on campus on Wednesday.
Reitz hostel students formed a furniture barricade around their residence.
Several other students who also live in hostels, barricaded themselves in "for fear for our lives".
Was manhandled
Theology student Cornus Botha said that shortly after the 10:00 lecture started in the CR Swart building, there was a loud bang.
The building filled rapidly with students shouting: "Come out. Come out."
"We didn't how to respond and so we walked out. The guys half-manhandled me. I was kicked in my back and side, several times."
The unrest had quietened down shortly before lunchtime.
But, the mood was far from calm and, for the rest of the day, for black and white students, it ranged between fear, fury and, above all, uncertainty.
I would like to state that I, and most Afrikaners, are disgusted by this video, and that what these young men have done, is not representative of current views amongst the vast majority of Afrikaners. Please do not judge all of us by this video. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
Thanks to Internet people all over the world can have information about the situation in South Africa. If you read just newspapers or watch on TV you can't realize what is happening in there. For example in my home country the online media has not told almost anything about electricity breakouts in SA. In my daily newspaper there was once a little writing about the electricity crisis. Just wondering why? In my country the media also explains those difficulties to be apartheid's faul. Everything can not be apartheid's foul, I think. There must be other reasons too.
What do the South Africans think themselves about what should be done to help the crime situation besides emigrating? Is there anything that can be done? I think voting in elections won't help much because the ANC gets more than a half of votes. SA is still a one party democracy, during apartheid there was the National Party today there is ANC. _________________ Aja hiljaa sillalla.
Ry stadig op die brug.
Drive slowly on the bridge.
Kör långsamt på bron.
I would like to state that I, and most Afrikaners, are disgusted by this video, and that what these young men have done, is not representative of current views amongst the vast majority of Afrikaners. Please do not judge all of us by this video.
Every normal human being would distugted by somenthing like this video. _________________ Aja hiljaa sillalla.
Ry stadig op die brug.
Drive slowly on the bridge.
Kör långsamt på bron.
Thanks to Internet people all over the world can have information about the situation in South Africa. If you read just newspapers or watch on TV you can't realize what is happening in there. For example in my home country the online media has not told almost anything about electricity breakouts in SA. In my daily newspaper there was once a little writing about the electricity crisis. Just wondering why?
Well, to be fair, I don't think the world is really all that interested in what happens in South Africa. But on the other hand, given the fascination the world had with apartheid, you'd think there'd be more interest in what followed...
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In my country the media also explains those difficulties to be apartheid's faul.
Eh? How did they make that sum? In 1998 Eskom (the national electricity company, which is state owned) released a report saying that SA is running out of power, and more provision should be made, building more power stations, otherwise we'd have serious problems by 2008. The (ANC) government told them they were talking nonsense, and dumped the report.... Well, do they have egg on their faces.... Not that they know it, of course, they can't see it due to the latest daily power outage...
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Everything can not be apartheid's foul, I think. There must be other reasons too.
Exactly. We're already 14 years beyond the official end to apartheid. Certainly some problems still hail from those days, but apartheid has become an easy excuse for the present govt to explain away it's own mistakes and shortcomings.
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What do the South Africans think themselves about what should be done to help the crime situation besides emigrating? Is there anything that can be done?
It;s a difficult question (to be fair to the govt again). One big problem is the reluctance of the govt to act. But it really is about more than that, getting at the cause of the problem. ANd that's eradicating poverty (which the govt talks about a lot, but does very little). Meanwhile, ordinary people are doing what they can, getting involved in neighborwood watches, installing security systems in their houses, and moving to security housing complexes (those who can afford it).
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Voting in elections won't help much because the ANC gets more than a half of votes. SA is still a one party democracy, during apartheid there was the National Party today there is ANC.
True, but I still vote in every election. The ANC will crumble much faster than the NP did (it's already started), and I'm counting on that. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
In my country the media also explains those difficulties to be apartheid's faul.
Eh? How did they make that sum? In 1998 Eskom (the national electricity company, which is state owned) released a report saying that SA is running out of power, and more provision should be made, building more power stations, otherwise we'd have serious problems by 2008. The (ANC) government told them they were talking nonsense, and dumped the report.... Well, do they have egg on their faces.... Not that they know it, of course, they can't see it due to the latest daily power outage...
Uh! I didn't express myself properly. I meant that the media explains all the problems as echoes from the era of the apartheid and the present government is usually responsible for nothing. In mid 90's South Africa was in headlines in my country too but today there is just silence. Maybe the official thruth is meant to be that everything is ok in SA because there is no more any racial oppression (yes, I know there is but never in newspapers or on TV). _________________ Aja hiljaa sillalla.
Ry stadig op die brug.
Drive slowly on the bridge.
Kör långsamt på bron.
In my country the media also explains those difficulties to be apartheid's faul.
Eh? How did they make that sum? In 1998 Eskom (the national electricity company, which is state owned) released a report saying that SA is running out of power, and more provision should be made, building more power stations, otherwise we'd have serious problems by 2008. The (ANC) government told them they were talking nonsense, and dumped the report.... Well, do they have egg on their faces.... Not that they know it, of course, they can't see it due to the latest daily power outage...
Uh! I didn't express myself properly. I meant that the media explains all the problems as echoes from the era of the apartheid and the present government is usually responsible for nothing. In mid 90's South Africa was in headlines in my country too but today there is just silence. Maybe the official thruth is meant to be that everything is ok in SA because there is no more any racial oppression (yes, I know there is but never in newspapers or on TV).
I understand what you mean, yes. It's a bit sad for me, that when there was an officially (seen as) oppressive system here, everyone was up in arms. Now that we officially have a (seen as) democratic system, but things are still not right, nobody cares... I believe the world wants SA to succeed, to be the first African country to succeed, sp much so that they prefer to ignore the problems. And with that they ignore the people who suffer... And I don't mean people like me, I'm OK, but millions of others, black and white, who are suffering because of an incompetent, selfish and greedy government.... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
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André in Zuid-Afrika wrote:
Well, to be fair, I don't think the world is really all that interested in what happens in South Africa. But on the other hand, given the fascination the world had with apartheid, you'd think there'd be more interest in what followed...
After the terrible events that happened over the weekend (and probably are still continuing as I write), I think the whole world has finally sat up and taken notice. Unfortunately, it took the senseless murders of innocent people to get the world to realize that situations are dire in the SA townships and in Zimbabwe.
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"Most of the Zimbabweans want to leave. It is better at home than here," said the former teacher who was chased out of his home by a mob early Sunday. (Associated Press)
Well, to be fair, I don't think the world is really all that interested in what happens in South Africa. But on the other hand, given the fascination the world had with apartheid, you'd think there'd be more interest in what followed...
After the terrible events that happened over the weekend (and probably are still continuing as I write), I think the whole world has finally sat up and taken notice. Unfortunately, it took the senseless murders of innocent people to get the world to realize that situations are dire in the SA townships and in Zimbabwe.
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"Most of the Zimbabweans want to leave. It is better at home than here," said the former teacher who was chased out of his home by a mob early Sunday. (Associated Press)
Cry the beloved country indeed...
Hm, so that did make international headlines...
What happened over the weekend, had shocked us all, and it indeed is horrible. I believe it accentuates the terrible condition Africa is in. I feel so sorry for the immigrants, most of whom have come here in search of a better life. SA is seen by those up north as a kind of paradise, the USA of of Africa, so to speak. But the problem is that we don't have work for them, we don't have homes for them. And black South Africans see them as a threat, because they are taking jobs away from them. Unemployment is already high, we can't afford more people, it's as simple as that. Unless they bring expertise and/or money to create new jobs. So in a way I understand what the attackers in Alex felt. And yes, another sad truth is that many of the immigrants (a large number of them being illigal immigrants), ARE involved in crime. Sadly, the innocent ones now fall victim... And the government sits idly by... Watching, but not offering any solutions. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
Interestingly, a survey published in newspapers today, showed that most South Africans, black and white, welcome immigrants from Europe, but not from Africa, _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
'They're going to kill us!'
23/05/2008 08:12 - (SA)
Nurene Jassiem, Marius Louw, Marelize Barnard and Garth Stead, Die Burger
Cape Town - At least one foreigner, a Somali citizen, has been killed and six people have been injured when residents of Du Noon near Milnerton in Cape Town, started attacking foreigners with stones and bottles.
A 14-year-old child was injured and a shop owner was allegedly stabbed in the back.
Several shacks were destroyed and doors were kicked open by attackers looking for immigrants.
Several container shops belonging to foreigners were plundered and their contents stolen. At least one was set on fire.
Police took 500 foreigners to safety at the Milnerton police station and an emergency centre was set up at the Killarney racecourse to accommodate people overnight.
Failed community meeting
The chaos followed a meeting on Thursday night at which discussions to avoid xenophobic attacks here, failed.
Residents said the ward committee member did not want to listen to their grievances.
After the meeting, residents told reporters that they wanted the foreigners to leave.
"We want them (the foreigners) to leave by Sunday," said Nonkululeko Sarlana, a resident of Du Noon.
Heavily armed metro and police officers searched Du Noon for armed men when the chaos erupted at 21:00.
Bewildered residents hid behind locked doors and windows. Shopkeepers tried to save what they could. Late at night, they took supplies from the shelves and packed them into waiting cars. The chaos spread across a wide area and police tried to protect the panicky shopkeepers and their families.
In the Joe Slovo area of Du Noon there was at one stage only three police members trying to keep violent gangs from getting to foreigners. Shots were fired while people tried to run from police.
People arrested
South Africans as well as foreigners were arrested.
A police helicopter flew over the area, shining a light on problem areas.
According to metro emergency services, six people had been injured at 23:00. A 14-year-old child, thought to be South African, had been hit by a rubber bullet in his house, breaking his jaw.
A photographer from Die Burger had his camera violently taken from him after he tried to photograph people destroying a shop.
Three Zimbabwean women living in Du Noon said they had never seen anything like this in Zimbabwe. A friend told them to flee as soon as possible. They left all their belongings. Police warned people to stay out of the area.
Cape Town mayor Helen Zille ordered all community halls in the area surrounding Du Noon to be opened for those fleeing the violence.
Army ready
She ordered the army to be in a state of readiness to help save the peace.
Western Cape Premier Ebrahim Rasool and Provincial Police chief commissioner Mzandile Petros as well as Provincial Minster of Community Safety Leonard Ramatlakana were on the scene.
Mozambican Americo Masinga, who has lived in SA since 1989, said he saw something was happening at 19:00 on Thursday night when people started coming together to sing and dance. He and his wife decided to leave Du Noon.
Moses Ndabihawenimana and his two brothers are from Burundi. They came to SA in 2006. Their parents were murdered in Burundi.
"This is war! They are going to kill us!"
A Nigerian shopkeeper said eight people stormed into his shop. "They took everything, everything".
Parts of the N7 were closed on Thursday night after stone throwing incidents. Although no incidents of violence were reported at Masiphumelele near Fish Hoek, many foreigners left the area out of fear for their lives, said police spokesperson senior superintendent Billy Jones. In Knysna, five shops belonging to Somalis were set on fire and plundered, said Sapa.
"Intervention in the form of an emergency community meeting came to late to stop the xenophobic criminals," said Mcebisi Skwatsha, Western Cape secretary of the ANC. "We are horrified and embarrassed".
_________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
Things are a bit worrying here at the moment. I'm not a fan of Mbeki myself, and this could well turn out to be a good thing. But we'll have to see.... My prediction (and hope) is a split in the ANC, resulting in a coalition government after next years elections. But it could turn violent....
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Analysts hailed President Thabo Mbeki's last address to the nation as one of the best, if not his second best to his milestone "I am an African" speech, as he announced his resignation on Sunday night.
Mbeki's moving address on national television was also carried live by international networks like Sky News and CNN.
He announced that he had handed his resignation letter to National Assembly Speaker Baleka Mbete and that he would step down on a date to be determined by Parliament.
'It was a dignified, calm and measured'
Mbeki, although still defiantly rejecting the damning inferences made by Judge Chris Nicholson last week, reminded South Africans of the road travelled so far - both achievements and shortcomings.
He also spoke of the challenges that lie ahead as he implored South Africans to have faith in the government.
Dr Adam Habib, political analyst with the Human Sciences Research Council, described Mbeki's speech as "magnificent".
"It was a dignified and very statesman-like … He said he thinks the incoming administration will do well. He implored the ANC and country to rise up in the face of adversity," said Habib.
But Mbeki still went for his detractors, albeit in a subtle and respectable way, said Habib.
'He has put his opponents on the back foot'
"He responded to his critics … (to) Nicholson, but did so in way that respected the boundaries and independence of the judiciary.
"There were messages in the address too. He was sending a strong signal that he will challenge Nicholson's judgment … (he thinks) that it's not a fair judgment. The second warning he was sending to the new ANC leadership (was) not to be triumphalist," he said.
Habib contrasted Mbeki's resignation to that of his apartheid predecessor PW Botha who was forced to resign by his party in 1989. Botha took the opportunity to publicly chastise his political opponents within his party and in the government.
Habib felt Mbeki's speech compared well with his 1996 "I am an African" speech.
Aubrey Matshiqi, of the Centre for Policy Studies, said Mbeki could easily just have announced his resignation in a "sulky way", but he instead addressed his people.
"Overall, given the (current political) circumstances, the speech was gracious. I didn't expect him to lash out, because his response (to the ANC decision), as reported by Gwede Mantashe, showed that (Mbeki) was going to work with the ANC," said Matshiqi.
For Judith February, of the Institute for Democracy in Southern Africa, Mbeki's 20-minute speech would calm the sceptics and reassure the world of stability in South Africa.
"It was a dignified, calm and measured. It will go a long way in calming people who are uneasy with the ANC decision to recall him," said February.
The speech, said February, was a "dignified exit" befitting the "office of the president".
"We will see a smooth transition and the toning down of some of the destructive rhetoric from the (ANC) Youth League which does not do anything good for the country," said February.
Mbeki said he was still a disciplined ANC member and respected its decisions.
"Trying times need courage and resilience. Our strength as a people is not tested during the best of times. As we said before, we should never become despondent because the weather is bad, nor should we turn triumphalist because the sun shines," he said.
Opposition parties also warmly received Mbeki's speech. DA leader Helen Zille summed up Mbeki's resignation as "dignified and presidential".
ID leader Patricia de Lille also thought Mbeki was making a "dignified" exit, pointing out that he had tried to give South Africans the assurance that "everything will be OK".
"Mbeki is always so aloof. This was the first time I saw some emotion - some passion - in his address. He connected well with the people of this country tonight."
De Lille added that "The lesson for all politicians here is that you must never take for granted those who voted you into office."
Bantu Holomisa, president of the UDM, described the speech as "classic" Mbeki.
"He has put his opponents on the back foot. He has put the onus on them to prove that he interfered in any way with the prosecution of Zuma," said Holomisa.
ACDP MP and justice spokesperson Steve Swart welcomed the fact that the ANC had chosen what appeared to be the "least disruptive" constitutional manner of replacing Mbeki and thereby avoiding a messy constitutional crisis.
_________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
I don't trust him, but he has been making some very positive sounds, especially about matters such as crime prevention, and the rights of minority groups. There is also the matter of his fraud case (which, no doubt, has a lot to do with the hurry to get rid of Mbeki, to prevent further procucuting) and the charge of rape, on which he was found innocent, but still... He's not remarkably clever, but shrewd. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
THE decision by Finance Minister, Trevor Manuel, and 10 other Cabinet ministers to quit their posts in solidarity with President Thabo Mbeki, who has been forced to resign will throw South Africa’s government into crisis.
Manuel was widely believed to be staying on to ensure financial stability as a new president took office and to reassure the markets that economic policy will not be radically altered by new ANC president Jacob Zuma, who owes his ascension to left wing allies in the trade union movement and the SA Communist Party.
If Manuel is not reappointed, the ANC will have a major headache. They will have to quickly find someone who can continue Manuel’s legacy. Perhaps Reserve Bank governor Tito Mboweni, who also enjoys credibility in the financial world and who has stayed out of the Mbeki-Zuma fight, will be the man to step into the breach.
Markets have already reacted negatively to Manuel’s departure, with the rand weakening on the news.
_________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
I just can't believe Trevor Manuel has resigned. He was the one man who has kept this govt going, and despite a shaky start, he was without a doubt our best minister of finance. I'm losing hope... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
APA-Johannesburg (South Africa) Outgoing President Thabo Mbeki had received the letters of resignation from at least one third of the cabinet, \"which, regretfully, he has had to accept\", the Presidency said on Tuesday.
The cabinet members who have resigned include Deputy President Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka, who earlier in the day announced her decision to leave her position to which she was appointed after current African National Congress president Jacob Zuma was released from his responsibilities as deputy president in 2005 following the conviction of his financial adviser to 15 years in prison for corruption in arms deal.
One of the reasons Mlambo-Ngcuka gave was to allow a new president the opportunity to choose his or her own deputy president.
Others who resigned on Tuesday are: •Minister of Defence Mosiuoa Lekota; •Minister in the Presidency Essop Pahad; •Minister of Intelligence Ronnie Kasrils; •Minister of Correctional Services Ngconde Balfour; •Minister of Public Enterprises Alec Erwin; •Minister of Science and Technology Mosibudi Mangena; •Minister of Public Works Thoko Didiza; •Minister of Provincial and Local Government Sydney Mufamadi, and Minister of Public Service and Administration Geraldine Fraser-Moleketi.
Deputy ministers who resigned are:
•Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs Aziz Pahad; •Deputy Minister of Finance Jabu Moleketi; and •Deputy Minister of Correctional Services Loretta Jacobus.
\"The resignations will be effective from the day that the president\’s resignation takes effect [Thursday],\" the Presidency said.
\"All the ministers have expressed their availability to assist the incoming administration in the handover process and any other assistance that might be sought from them.
\"President Mbeki thanked the deputy president, the ministers and deputy ministers for their dedicated service to the nation and wished them well in their future endeavours,\" it said.
The Presidency denied a report by the South African Broadcasting Corporation that the entire cabinet had resigned.
It was already known that Erwin would not stay after the next election, and Essop Pahad made his own announcement on Monday, but the big surprise was Finance Minister Trevor Manuel, who said himself two days ago that he had no intention of quitting.
Oh, but we'll survive, we always do, we're South African. But I have to admit, I'm slightly shaken... and slightly scared... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
Interestingly, when you go through the list of ministers who have resigned, with one or two exceptions, they were the ones who did their jobs well. As for those remaining....
We have one hell of a crisis on our hands here! _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
There's now strong talk of a new party, to be founded by some prominent current ANC leaders. That would be an excellent development. It would break the ANC's monopoly on power, which will take us a long way down the road of democracy. So it could be that all of this could turn out for the best. Also positive is that there has been no violence so far. That's a good sign.
_________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
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In 1998 Eskom (the national electricity company, which is state owned) released a report saying that SA is running out of power, and more provision should be made, building more power stations, otherwise we'd have serious problems by 2008. The (ANC) government told them they were talking nonsense, and dumped the report.... Well, do they have egg on their faces.... 
Not that they know it, of course, they can't see it due to the latest daily power outage... 
Watching, but not offering any solutions. 