It is high time for him to go. He has been a massive disappointment. To think that so much hopes were invested in him in 1980.
Is Pretoria doing anything to bump him or is he being mollycoddled by Thabo Mbeki? Angola also exerts considerable influence over Mugabe's fortunes. It is essential that Zimbabwe's neighbours act in concert to endorse change in the cesspool of mismanagement that is Zimbabwe.
Of course it's high time for him to go! As for Pretoria, we have Thabo Mbeki... And as for the rest of the world.... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
Zimbabwe is a blighted country. The latest humanitarian disaster to befall on this wretched nation is an epidemic of cholera. The health-care system has collapsed. The water and sewerage system has broken down. Sick Zimbabweans are either dying like flies or streaming into neighbouring South Africa.
I wonder why negotiations between the MDC and Mugabe's ZANU-PF are progessing at such a snail's pace. This is only proof of Mugabe's intransigence to agree to any meaningful sharing of power. It doesn't help that the SADC (South African Development Committee) is overtly biased towards the despotic incumbent: Thabo Mbeki is trying to browbeat Morgan Tsvangirai's MDC into agreeing to Mugabe's terms.
Andre, do you think Jacob Zuma would take a harder stand?
Elaine: I believe "go hang" simply means "go and die". I really hope Mugabe and his stooges will do just that. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire.
Zimbabwe is a blighted country. The latest humanitarian disaster to befall on this wretched nation is an epidemic of cholera. The health-care system has collapsed. The water and sewerage system has broken down. Sick Zimbabweans are either dying like flies or streaming into neighbouring South Africa.
I wonder why negotiations between the MDC and Mugabe's ZANU-PF are progessing at such a snail's pace. This is only proof of Mugabe's intransigence to agree to any meaningful sharing of power. It doesn't help that the SADC (South African Development Committee) is overtly biased towards the despotic incumbent: Thabo Mbeki is trying to browbeat Morgan Tsvangirai's MDC into agreeing to Mugabe's terms.
Andre, do you think Jacob Zuma would take a harder stand?
Elaine: I believe "go hang" simply means "go and die". I really hope Mugabe and his stooges will do just that.
Hi Loic, good to see you again!
Yes, things are going from bad to worse in Zim. The reason why negotiations are going so slow, is because Mugabe is restraining it. It's difficult to say whether Zuma will take a harder stand. He has critisised Mbeki in the past for the way he has handled Zim, but the new president, who is little more than a Zuma stooge, hasn't done much better.
Of course, at the moment it's a good question whether Zuma will become president. Firstly, he still has that little matter of the charges against him to deal with, secondly, with the recent split in the ANC and the launch of a new party, there is a good change that the ANC will not win next year's election, and that a coalition could take over. Such a coalition will certainly take a much stronger stand against Mugabe. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
With regards to Zuma being President, I'd always assumed that it is a foregone conclusion. He enjoys widespread support among the rank and file of the ANC. The ANC is the only serious political force in South Africa at the moment, a party that has the necessary grassroots support to form the government.
I must admit that I don't quite like the look of him. I am sorry to say, but he looks like one of those faceless thugs one often sees in Hollywood films. The sort of baddie who gets killed in a shoot-out with the cops and whose name only rolls up at the bottom of the credits. It doesn't help his cause that his past is less than pristine white. I am sure South Africa deserves a better candidate for the top job of the country.
With respect to Zimbabwe's situation, it reminds me of a cynical saying that Africa is the continent of the future and always will be. In many respects, having a racist Ian Smithesque regime in the country would be infinitely better than an incompetent and dictatorial regime with scant regard for ameliorating the poverty of the country.
My heart always aches when I think of how Robert Mugabe singlehandedly allowed the national cricket side to become a mere shadow of its former self. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire.
With regards to Zuma being President, I'd always assumed that it is a foregone conclusion. He enjoys widespread support among the rank and file of the ANC. The ANC is the only serious political force in South Africa at the moment, a party that has the necessary grassroots support to form the government.
I must admit that I don't quite like the look of him. I am sorry to say, but he looks like one of those faceless thugs one often sees in Hollywood films. The sort of baddie who gets killed in a shoot-out with the cops and whose name only rolls up at the bottom of the credits. It doesn't help his cause that his past is less than pristine white. I am sure South Africa deserves a better candidate for the top job of the country.
Hm, you've been neglecting your studies of current South African politics again, haven't you? There has been a huge breakaway recently from the ANC, and a new party has been formed by the dissidents, called the Congress of the People (Cope). All indications are that they have strong support, and, together with other opposisition parties, will not only substantially reduce the ANC's majority, but even defeat the ANC in at least three provinces, perhaps more, in next year's lections. A survey done just before the breakaway, showed that the ANC has, at that time, already lost 15% of the support it had in the 2004 elections. Observers are predicting more splits to come. While victory for the ANC in next year's elections seemed like a foregone conclusion three months ago, the situation has dramatically changed now.
Hehe, loved your description of Zuma!
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The fledgling Congress of the People already has 40 000 members, interim provincial co-ordinator Leonard Ramatlakane told 330 delegates at the party's policy conference.
Some of the issues grappled with included ensuring food security, enhancing the education system, building a strong and effective criminal justice system, building stronger families, and changing the electoral system.
The conference was held at the Manzomthombo Senior Secondary School in Mfuleni on Saturday and attracted delegates from across the Western Cape.
Ramatlakane said the party, due to be formally launched in Bloemfontein on December 16, had thousands of volunteers offering their time and using their own money as they went about recruiting people.
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With respect to Zimbabwe's situation, it reminds me of a cynical saying that Africa is the continent of the future and always will be. In many respects, having a racist Ian Smithesque regime in the country would be infinitely better than an incompetent and dictatorial regime with scant regard for ameliorating the poverty of the country.
My heart always aches when I think of how Robert Mugabe singlehandedly allowed the national cricket side to become a mere shadow of its former self.
The end for Mugabe seems near. SA newspapers today predicted his fall within the next two weeks. Let's hope... _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
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"I will never, never, never never surrender. Zimbabwe is mine. I am a Zimbabwean. Zimbabwe for Zimbabweans. Zimbabwe never for the British, Britain for the British," Mugabe told his party's annual conference.
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And as for the rest of the world.... 
There has been a huge breakaway recently from the ANC, and a new party has been formed by the dissidents, called the Congress of the People (Cope). All indications are that they have strong support, and, together with other opposisition parties, will not only substantially reduce the ANC's majority, but even defeat the ANC in at least three provinces, perhaps more, in next year's lections. A survey done just before the breakaway, showed that the ANC has, at that time, already lost 15% of the support it had in the 2004 elections. Observers are predicting more splits to come. While victory for the ANC in next year's elections seemed like a foregone conclusion three months ago, the situation has dramatically changed now.