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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: London Reply with quote

Next week I will travel one week to London. What suggestions have you?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarder à droite avant de traverser.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a question: For countries which drive on the right, how do you go about approaching a roundabout? Do you go in a clockwise or anti-clockwise direction?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greg, LOL!!



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I have a question: For countries which drive on the right, how do you go about approaching a roundabout? Do you go in a clockwise or anti-clockwise direction?


anti-clockwise. Of course I can't drive but I was in Ireland one time and I've noticed that all the things are on the opposite: side of the road, the steering wheel, the roundabouts etc...

But I don't go there to watch the traffic!!! We've some things we must do when we're there, but there will be much time for sightseeing. I want to see Big Ben, visit a pub and go on the London Eye. I've asked on a thread here because I think that there're several british visitors of this forum and other people who know London. If i don't tell the things I'd like to visit then I will have to follow them (parents) and it will be the things what interest them where we'll go!!! I don't like it when there are many people, but apart from that I would like to get all suggestions from you
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about going to the new Emirates stadium and watch Arsenal play at home?

Of course, every traveller to a foreign land has different needs and expectations. For me, I think sport is a microcosm of society and what better way to explore the so-called class cleavage than by attending football matches at the East End (you can go support Fulham) or the North (Arsenal and Tottenham), or how about somewhere posher at the West (Chelsea, anyone?). Rubbing shoulders with honest and hardworking working class men and women cheering their hearts out for their boys on the pitch would be a sweet introduction into English culture in general.

And maybe if you were to stick around for a few more months and perhaps have some magnificent connections, you can go watch the tennis at Wimbledon.

Or watch the FA cup final at Wembley. Rugby at Twickenham. Cricket at Lord's.

That is what I'd do if I were to go to London.

This reminds me of an old nursery rhyme which I learnt at kindergarten:

-Pussy cat, pussy cat, where have you been?
-I've been to London to visit the Queen.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can never remember what side of the road to drive on, partly because I spend so much time in other countries. I always get confused when crossing the road at a T junction or something and cars are waiting to turn.

Ironically, I probably know Brussels better than I know London, so I'm afraid that I can't be much help here. When I go to London (which is very rarely), I usually go for one day to visit a specific exhibition in a specific art gallery or something, and then that's all I do. And this will probably sound very bizarre, but I don't really think of London at all when I think of 'England'. It's almost as though it's a separate entity.

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Of course, every traveller to a foreign land has different needs and expectations.

Well, I would not consider Belgium to be a 'foreign land' from my perspective.

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Rubbing shoulders with honest and hardworking working class men and women cheering their hearts out for their boys on the pitch would be a sweet introduction into English culture in general.

Sounds like a 21st century romanticised view of the English working class in the first part of the 20th century. It doesn't exist now, and to be honest, I'd be surprised if it ever really did.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: London Reply with quote

Pauline wrote:
Next week I will travel one week to London. What suggestions have you?



I just went once to London and it was few years ago. I didn't stay long (4 days) but during this stay, I visited museums such as the Tate Modern, National Gallery or British Museum.

I also went to Dicken's House (if you like this author). It's not a long visit. You just see his house and office.

No need to mention that you're very likely to spend a part of your stay doing shopping!

Anyway, have a good time there!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I were you I would definitely go to the fascinating and creepy Madame Tussauds.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

greg in noord-frankrijk wrote:
Regarder à droite avant de traverser.

Good advice! I actually found it difficult to remember. (Good thing I wasn't driving there!)

I was in London for only 2 weeks in 1970, so, based on my experience, my advice is...don't hope to be able to buy a ticket to Hair on the night of the performance.


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And based on my experience, bring a gas mask! The pollution was noticeable to say the least.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have a question: For countries which drive on the right, how do you go about approaching a roundabout? Do you go in a clockwise or anti-clockwise direction?


We don't HAVE roundabouts.

Horrible concept!


(Actually, there are a tiny number of them in the US, where they go by the name of "traffic circle". But I personally have never seen one or worse, had to navigate one, and thank god.)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Horrible concept!

No, roundabouts are an excellent concept. Numerous studies in the US and other countries have shown that they reduce car crashes by about 40%, pedestrian crashes by about 75%, injuries by up to 80%, and traffic delays by 60-90%. They're better than intersections in every way, and I hope that they become dominant in the US - starting in New Mexico, of course.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uriel wrote:
loic wrote:
I have a question: For countries which drive on the right, how do you go about approaching a roundabout? Do you go in a clockwise or anti-clockwise direction?


We don't HAVE roundabouts.

Horrible concept!


(Actually, there are a tiny number of them in the US, where they go by the name of "traffic circle". But I personally have never seen one or worse, had to navigate one, and thank god.)


There's plenty of them where I come from. Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Central California, etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish I could be of more help, but I was in London with my (domineering) mother, so we just did whatever she wanted to do, which was mainly to see cathedrals, museums and palaces. But I did enjoy the visit to Hampton Court Palace (home of Cardinal Wolsey that was confiscated by Henry VIII), largely because of its beautiful, large park. We drove, but what sounds best to me is getting there by boat. But, so I've read, unless you want to spend most of your day on the boat, you should take the underground partway. There are also frequent trains.

I like historic ships, so I enjoyed seeing the Cutty Sark, a clipper, in Greenwich. However, I just learned that it's under restoration and closed to the public.

What I enjoyed most in London was the one night when I was able to get off on my own and just wander around, but I gather that's no longer a carefree experience such as I had 35 years ago.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone once said that when one is tired of London, he is tired of life.
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Yep! This is Samuel Johnson who said it!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loic wrote:
I have a question: For countries which drive on the right, how do you go about approaching a roundabout? Do you go in a clockwise or anti-clockwise direction?
Counterclockwise. Quite a few have been popping up around here (NJ) these past few years, but nothing like those scary ones in New Zealand and Australia, like the ones Frances and Joel put up pictures of in Old Langcafe!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Magic Roundabout in Swindon, England:

You apparently have to drive the wrong way round some of them.

There's also one in Hemel Hempstead that was constructed more recently.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamin wrote:


C'est un peu l'hallu quand même !...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J'aimerai bien monter dans le London eye...




Concernant l'image du dessus;
En tout cas ça fait un dessin décoratif !
Mais c'est vrai, en plus en le prenant par la gauche ça doit pas être facile !

Les rond-points en France sont souvent l'objet de composition mégalomane quand ils sont urbains:






et ils sont l'objet d'aménagments paysagers souvent particulièrement ridicules lorsqu'ils bordent nos entrées de villes et villages...







































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