Elaine: I cannot identify a single aspect of her that convinced me of her mannish disposition, but I only wish she could draw a leaf or two out from other women leaders in the world when it comes to her wardrobe. One never sees President Gloria Arroyo or Chancellor Angela Merkel wearing trousers, do they?
Fab: Yes, there is coverage about the Spanish GE as well as the French municipal election. But they were swamped by the media coverage of the Malaysian GE though. _________________ Hillary Clinton is an acquired taste which I have clearly yet to acquire.
I completely fail to understand why whether Hillary Clinton prefers to wear trousers over skirts is even remotely an issue. Having said that, I'm not quite sure how serious Loic is being here. Is the idea of women wearing trousers on semi-formal occasions something that would cause surprise in Singapore? All I can say is that it would be very normal here, even though that wouldn't have been the case say 50 years ago.
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:04 pm Post subject:
Loic wrote:
It's not the fact that she doesn't wear skirts although I am partial to women who wear them (read: Baroness Thatcher). It is the fact that she is so mannish in behaviour and outlook that it makes a mockery out of her claims that she is also seeking to be the first woman President when she is in reality fighting for the rights of all men in drag.
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I cannot identify a single aspect of her that convinced me of her mannish disposition, but I only wish she could draw a leaf or two out from other women leaders in the world when it comes to her wardrobe. One never sees President Gloria Arroyo or Chancellor Angela Merkel wearing trousers, do they?
Did I misunderstand? It seems to me that these two posts are self-contradictory. However, I also thought Loic must have been kidding about the skirts, simply because I couldn't believe that even he could make such a statement seriously.
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 7:08 pm Post subject:
Deborah wrote:
However, I also thought Loic must have been kidding about the skirts, simply because I couldn't believe that even he could make such a statement seriously.
LOL. I was a bit taken aback myself. I hadn't realized that female leaders had to mind their attire on top of running a country and defending the nation from terrorist attacks.
Poor Hillary. When she was First Lady, wearing knee-length skirts to public events, her detractors would mercilessly ridicule her for having unflattering "piano legs". Now she chooses to hide her physical flaws underneath tasteful slacks, and still she gets no respect! She should just throw on a muumuu and raise her hands in surrender.
Uriel wrote:
I never wear skirts. Absolutely can't stand them. Pants, jeans, or shorts at all times. And I'm pretty happy about the whole being a girl thing, I think.
I rarely ever wear skirts to work. In fact, most of the female execs and managers here wear slacks and only wear skirts on the rarest of occasions. In my opinion, a nicely tailored blazer and slacks ensemble looks sharp, modern, and youthful, while the blazer and skirt combo looks very "old guard" to me, something the baby boomers and earlier generations wear.
Location: San Francisco, Noord-Kalifornië, Noord-Amerika
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject:
Elaine wrote:
Poor Hillary. When she was First Lady, wearing knee-length skirts to public events, her detractors would mercilessly ridicule her for having unflattering "piano legs". Now she chooses to hide her physical flaws underneath tasteful slacks, and still she gets no respect! She should just throw on a muumuu and raise her hands in surrender.
I remember those days. I was watching her on TV with a male friend, who was extremely critical of her for her piano legs, as if that had anything to do with politics! Maybe now he's criticizing her for wearing pants.
It always bugged me that for many men of my generation, the only celebrity feminist who had any credibility with them was Gloria Steinem, and that was because of her looks. Their reasoning was that at least with her, they couldn't think that her objection to treating women as sex objects was due to being envious of those very sex objects! Idiots.
Location: El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Angeles del Río de Porciúncula
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:
Deborah wrote:
Their reasoning was that at least with her, they couldn't think that her objection to treating women as sex objects was due to being envious of those very sex objects! Idiots.
I believe that was the criticism leveled at Betty Friedan and Andrea Dworkin. Thank goddess for Gloria and Germaine! (See I did learn a thing or two at my Women's Studies courses )
Well, the primaries are winding down, so most of the excitement's over until the actual race starts. I have to admit that I've pretty much lost interest at this point. _________________ An apple a day....
This is the latest political video from JibJab. I thought it was funny enough to share.... Careful, though, the tune is catchy!
Time For Some Campaigning _________________ "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." ---- Groucho Marx
Well, it's gotta be time to fire this one up again! I don't usually go in much for politics, but Antimoon has gotten me debating the Brits on the nature of American voters (we'll see how long that one lasts before the mods shut it down) -- I think they are full of bullshit stereotypes, and they think I'm all pie in the sky, I guess. There's no talking politics on my other pet forum, because its membership is enormous and they are all completely rabid, so it just degenerates into insults and name-calling, which I can't get into. But I'm curious as to how others are feeling about it (if at all -- non-Americans may not care much). _________________ An apple a day....
Well, it's gotta be time to fire this one up again! I don't usually go in much for politics, but Antimoon has gotten me debating the Brits on the nature of American voters (we'll see how long that one lasts before the mods shut it down) -- I think they are full of bullshit stereotypes, and they think I'm all pie in the sky, I guess. There's no talking politics on my other pet forum, because its membership is enormous and they are all completely rabid, so it just degenerates into insults and name-calling, which I can't get into. But I'm curious as to how others are feeling about it (if at all -- non-Americans may not care much).
Personally, I'm fascinated! What do you think of Sarah Palin? I find her very interesting, but not quite sure if that's enough. I can't really warm up to either Obama or McCain. _________________ Toe ek jonk was, het ek al die antwoorde geken. Nou verstaan ek nie eens die vrae nie.
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Thank goddess for Gloria and Germaine! (See I did learn a thing or two at my Women's Studies courses 
This is the latest political video from JibJab. I thought it was funny enough to share.... Careful, though, the tune is catchy! 
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