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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deborah wrote:
I got a pretty nice severance package, and now I can rest for awhile.


Well done !


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I can get my certificate in teaching ESL, once I finish two written assignments, and I still have my certificate in Swedish massage. I think doing a combination of those two professions could be pretty nice.


Combining occupations you like is a very good prospect.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I got somewhat good news today.

About a year ago, my car (with me at the driver's seat) and a teenage boy on his bicycle collided at an intersection, causing him to fly into my windshield, shattering both my windshield and my nerves.  Suffice it to say, his lawyers were asking for compensatory damages far exceeding what my insurance policy covers, claiming that his client suffered broken bones, lacerations, internal bleeding, etc. (curiously, the police officer who wrote the report and escorted the boy to the hospital, called me that afternoon telling me that he didn't break any bones, only had minor cuts and bruises, and was released from the hospital that very day).  But anyway, for the past year, I've been nervously awaiting resolution, absolutely dreading the sort of call that goes something like, "We're sorry, but since the judgment claim is more than your policy covers, you're fucked!"

So this morning I got a call from my insurance company telling me that they're close to settling for a mere $6,000, which is peanuts compared to the original damage claim.  I am so glad this is almost over, and thankful each day that this unfortunate incident wasn't worse than it could've been.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Elaine wrote:
Suffice it to say, his lawyers were asking for compensatory damages far exceeding what my insurance policy covers, claiming that his client suffered broken bones, lacerations, internal bleeding, etc. (curiously, the police officer who wrote the report and escorted the boy to the hospital, called me that afternoon telling me that he didn't break any bones, only had minor cuts and bruises, and was released from the hospital that very day).  


No offence to anyone here, but I find the law profession exceptionally immoral. It's the occupation directed towards gaining maximum profits at the cost of the truth.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSa wrote:
Elaine wrote:
Suffice it to say, his lawyers were asking for compensatory damages far exceeding what my insurance policy covers, claiming that his client suffered broken bones, lacerations, internal bleeding, etc. (curiously, the police officer who wrote the report and escorted the boy to the hospital, called me that afternoon telling me that he didn't break any bones, only had minor cuts and bruises, and was released from the hospital that very day).  


No offence to anyone here, but I find the law profession exceptionally immoral. It's the occupation directed towards gaining maximum profits at the cost of the truth.

Amazingly, I actually agree with you for once.  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's the occupation directed towards gaining maximum profits at the cost of the truth.


Sadly, it's become the standard mindset of our (American) society (I don't know how it is in Europe or other parts of the world).  And what many litigious people fail to realize is that these costly third-party lawsuits are one of the main reasons why our auto, homeowners, property, casualty, and business insurance premiums are so high and keep rising.

We had a secretary who worked here (a miserable sort of woman) who was rear-ended by a city of Los Angeles employee (driving in a city vehicle) during her lunch break.  Her car had nary a scratch and she went back to work after her lunch break as per usual.  But she filed a claim against the city for her neck and back injuries, and because she was a part-time "actress", her "injuries" prevented her from going to auditions and getting hired for lucrative work.  So she added loss of income to her list of damages.    The city immediately gave her a comfortable sum of money (she would only say "in the several thousand") to make her go away rather than get themselves embroiled in a costly legal battle.  

Well months later, I met this guy who worked at the City Attorney's office and the subject of frivolous lawsuits came up, and he told me that there are actually some dastardly people who go after vehicles bearing the city of Los Angeles logo and deliberately get themselves rear-ended by them just so they can get easy money.  Well, I couldn't help but think that this was what our charming secretary did.  This made me so angry because that's our fuckin' money that they're pocketing, money that could've been better spent on much needed projects and services.  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSa wrote:
Elaine wrote:
Suffice it to say, his lawyers were asking for compensatory damages far exceeding what my insurance policy covers, claiming that his client suffered broken bones, lacerations, internal bleeding, etc. (curiously, the police officer who wrote the report and escorted the boy to the hospital, called me that afternoon telling me that he didn't break any bones, only had minor cuts and bruises, and was released from the hospital that very day).  


No offence to anyone here, but I find the law profession exceptionally immoral. It's the occupation directed towards gaining maximum profits at the cost of the truth.


Man, I'm glad I don't live in that "blessed", "free" country in the west. Sheee.... No offence. However, I do believe there are lawyers with good intentions walking this Earth. Actually, one of my oldest friends is a lawyer (at the Swedish IRS), though in his case I think it has a lot to do with prestige. A guy in my dorm in Uppsala was a law student, and he used to talk about the rights of the individual and stuff like that. It was his opinion that no one should be left out, defenceless an' shit. But he was young.

Anyway, Elaine, I'm glad your nightmare is almost over (though six grand is a lot of cash).
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A guy in my dorm in Uppsala was a law student, and he used to talk about the rights of the individual and stuff like that. It was his opinion that no one should be left out, defenceless an' shit. But he was young.



Interesting was the law in communist countries. Those who were to defend political prisoners, especially in Stalin's time,  were in fact their prosecutors    It was not unusual for them to start their defence speech with the words: "It's a great displeasure for me to defend this hideous creature, this nasty enemy of the communist system...".

BTW: I'm going to Uppsala tomorrow!  
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an unfortunate situation but I think it's the system's fault more so than the lawyers. Adversarial legal systems pit two parties against each other and the lawyer is forced to completely be biased for their client as opposed to being conciliatory and trying to sort out a solution. Thankfully, conciliation and mediation is becoming more prominent in civil matters but those in crime have blood dripping out of their mouths and egos pumping through the downstairs gear if you know what I mean.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 15, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW: I'm going to Uppsala tomorrow!


Have a nice stay!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm going to my first funeral tomorrow.  My ex's dad (which made him my almost-father-in-law for many years) died suddenly and completely unexpectedly on Wednesday morning last week.  He had just finished his treatment for a very treatable mild form of cancer, during which period he had taken all of his doctor's advice and stopped smoking, drinking alcohol of any kind, and had gone to the doctor for his final check-up, where he had been declared cancer-free and healthy as a horse.  The next morning he got up, turned on the heater, started his coffee, exchanged some pleasantries with his wife, and when she came back from the bathroom, he was unconscious and dying of a heart attack.  And then he was just gone.  Everyone is shocked and completely devastated.  He was a wonderful, kind, sweet man, and I will miss him a lot.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Uriel.  My prayers are with you and his family.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How sad!  My deepest sympathy.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My condolences, Uriel.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My sympathies.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aw, thanks.  It was very, very sad.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A guy in my dorm in Uppsala was a law student, and he used to talk about the rights of the individual and stuff like that. It was his opinion that no one should be left out, defenceless an' shit. But he was young.



Interesting was the law in communist countries. Those who were to defend political prisoners, especially in Stalin's time,  were in fact their prosecutors    It was not unusual for them to start their defence speech with the words: "It's a great displeasure for me to defend this hideous creature, this nasty enemy of the communist system...".

BTW: I'm going to Uppsala tomorrow!  


So tell us about it! I would love to hear more.

And I'm still waiting for that piece on how it was living in a communist state, which I asked you for a long time ago...    



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