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PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why there are so many Russians in Estonia or Ukraine?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russians aren't like guys from Middle Asia, they were sent by party to make all lands prosperious. Asians were and still are non educated, at least not so much to be top managers.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wanderin — I'll just say that what you're saying sounds very racist to me although I realise that you probably don't mean it in that way.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wanderin wrote:
Russians aren't like guys from Middle Asia, they were sent by party to make all lands prosperious.

Did they make it more prosperous, in your opinion?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benjamin wrote:
Wanderin — I'll just say that what you're saying sounds very racist to me although I realise that you probably don't mean it in that way.


I hope that what Wanderin wanted to say is that people from Asia are in general less educated, and looking at the figures like, for example, analphabetism rate, it is true in this sense. Of course it is not their fault but the educational system. I have also, however, noticed in Wanderin's post sort of contemptuous suggestion that they are inherently less intelligent or something like this and I strongly oppose it. For example, when I compare educated people from Asia with people from, say, USA or Europe (I met lot of them), sometimes I'm confused who is more and who is less educated.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my previous post i ment the following:

Middle Asian countries were always "banana republics", I don't mean ancient times, but let's say last 2 centuries. They were always under Russia, is this fault of Russian authorities that they are still not in 21st century? I can't answer this question, but these countries, like Tajikistan are really poor and they were the same in Soviet times. Soviets gave them lots of money, but I guess most of them was stolen like everything in Soviet days. Now people from these countries can't find even a simple job at home, so they go to Russia, and work, usually they are all illegal immigrants.

Russians were and still are the biggest ex-Soviet nation. USSR was based on Russian Empire and the biggest ethnicity was Russians - Slavic people. All science, all best universities were and still are in Russia. You can't deny that. So Communist Party sent the best people to "rule" in other parts of the Soviet Union. And, surprise, they were Russians. It's just the fact, no any racism. And now, all ex-USSR, except Baltic countries (though even here I meet exceptions) goes to Russia to get high education.

>>Did they make it more prosperous, in your opinion?

I can't answer this question. I wasn't in Soviet Baltic States, I can't compare what was before joining USSR and what was after. Even if there was anything good, it was destroyed and quickly forgotten by local inhabitans as it always happens when new power comes.



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