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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Some economic statistics Reply with quote

GDP growth of some of the new EU members in 2006

Latvia 11,0%
Estonia 10,9%
Slovakia 8,3%
Lithuania 7,5%
Czech Republic 5,9%
Poland 5,8%
Hungary 4,0%

GDP of the whole EU in 2006 grew by 2,9%.

Experts predict that in 2007 EU may overtake the US!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can call us "East European tigers"
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And they did that after getting rid of communism... which proves the failure of communism.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job!

Could you supply more information--for instance, the structure, the major industries--about the economies of East Europe?
Which countries are the largest economies in East Europe? What do you think contributes most to the growth of them?

By the way, shall we start an "Economy" subforum? We already have a "Politics" subforum, but technically we can live without politics, we can't live without economy, can we?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KSa wrote:
GDP growth of some of the new EU members in 2006

Latvia 11,0%
Estonia 10,9%
Slovakia 8,3%
Lithuania 7,5%
Czech Republic 5,9%
Poland 5,8%
Hungary 4,0%

GDP of the whole EU in 2006 grew by 2,9%.


GDP growth in those countries is partially fuelled by massive EU subsidies and investment. And also by fiscal dicrepancy within the EU — which is tantamount to extra EU subsidising.



Now to put things in perspective :

    Population
      Allemagne (Deutschland) : 82,4
      Espagne (España) : 43,0
      Estonie (Eesti) : 1,3
      France : 63,5
      Hongrie (Magyarország) : 10,1
      Italie (Italia) : 58,7
      Lettonie (Latvija) : 2,3
      Lituanie (Lietuva) : 3,4
      Pologne (Polska) : 38,2
      République tchèque (Česká republika) : 10,2
      Slovaquie (Slovensko) : 5,4

    The population of Germany, Spain, France & Italy adds up to 78 % of the total for the 11 countries mentioned. Poland alone accounts for 54 % of the remaining 22 points. And if you add Hungary & the Czech Republic to Poland, then the three represent 83 % of the 22 points remaining. So there is indeed a demographic gap between the West and the East and another one within the Eastern countries you mentioned.


More perspective :

    PIB (milliards d’euros) — GDP (billion euros)
      Allemagne (Deutschland) : 2.177
      Espagne (España) : 900
      Estonie (Eesti) : 11
      France : 1.710
      Hongrie (Magyarország) : 88
      Italie (Italia) : 1.417
      Lettonie (Latvija) : 13
      Lituanie (Lietuva) : 21
      Pologne (Polska) : 229
      République tchèque (Česká republika) : 98
      Slovaquie (Slovensko) : 38


    Basically 1 % GDP growth in Germany is 22 billion euros — that's 22 times a 10 % increase in Estonian GDP. In other words, more capital, technology, labour & productivity gains are required in absolute quantity to expand Western Europe's output, even in very moderate relative proportions, than are needed to explode Eastern Europe's GDP as is currently the case.






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Experts predict that in 2007 EU may overtake the US!


The 78-22 East-West gap widens when you switch from demography to GDP : it's a 93 % lion's share for the Western four versus a tiny 7 % for the seven of the East. Even within the East, Polish GDP accounts for 46 % of the total. That percentage jumps to 83 if you consider Poland and Hungary and the Cezch Republic. As things now stand, any perceptible upturn in EU GDP growth is therefore likely to originate from the West, not from the East, whatever their own growth pace may be — even skyrocketing.

Inflation rate, too, gives some clues about what GDP growth really means in some Eastern countries like Estonia & Latvia : in those countries the economy is clearly overheating and a hard landing is to be expected sooner or later.

    Inflation (%)
      Allemagne (Deutschland) : 2,0
      Espagne (España) : 3,4
      Estonie (Eesti) : 4,7
      France : 1,7
      Hongrie (Magyarország) : 3,6
      Italie (Italia) : 2,0
      Lettonie (Latvija) : 6,7
      Lituanie (Lietuva) : 2,7
      Pologne (Polska) : 2,2
      République tchèque (Česká republika) : 1,9
      Slovaquie (Slovensko) : 2,7
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a very interesting website called The CIA World Factbook which is basically a website that has a list of all the countries in the world and statistics concerning the country's government, economy, demographics, etc.

Just google "CIA WORLD FACTBOOK" and it should lead you to the website. I find myself on that website when I'm incredibly bored and have nothing else to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bruce wrote:
Just google "CIA WORLD FACTBOOK" and it should lead you to the website. I find myself on that website when I'm incredibly bored and have nothing else to do.

Funny, I came across that website once when I was googling something, and got sidetracked for quite a while.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Just google "CIA WORLD FACTBOOK" and it should lead you to the website. I find myself on that website when I'm incredibly bored and have nothing else to do.


Haha! Me too! I thought I was the only one, lol.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I even found a published paper edition of CIA world factbook when I went on a spending spree at a bookstore in Beijing a couple of years ago. Must have been imported from the US.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Patrix! How're you? You've been such a stranger!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I've been losing money in the deranged Chinese stock market, which explains why I've been such a stranger. Loic, you look smarter than the last time I saw your avatar. And how's everybody going?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch. I hope you didn't get your fingers burnt. What I do know is that stockmarkets throughout the region have made a modest recovery today. I hope you have recovered some of your losses.

I always think that the market from the second quarter of this year has been that of a bear disguised as a bull. Well, the bear is about to reveal his true colours, isn't he?

PS: Do you still keep in touch with Wulefu? If you make a permanent comeback, and so does he, we can revive the Chinese language forum.



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